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To: RoosterRedux
I'll tell you how. They say that the homosexual behavior referred to in the Bible was non-marital, it was fornication (or worse, rape or pederast or prostitution) and therefore a sin, and therefore an abomination. But if you had a nice, gay, Christian couple who were married, loving, faithful, pray-toether-stay-together WEDDED SPOUSES, then it would't be fornication, it would be married love, and not a sin.

That's the delusion.

We've been discussing that in detail over here (LINK)

38 posted on 08/24/2014 8:30:35 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Most of us know more from being old, than from being told.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If homosexuality in the Bible referred to homosexual rape, it would say so. If loving, monogamous homosexual relations were allowed, it would say so. God is not stupid, and He knows how to make distinctions, when there is one to be made.

“The word “therefore” connects the making of Eve from a part of Adam’s body with the “one flesh” sexual union between a man and a woman in marriage: it is the reunion of the two constituent parts of a sexual whole. It is not another man who is the missing part or sexual comple­ment of a man, but rather a woman. (Jesus emphasizes this connection between the two different sexes, “male and female,” in Matthew 19:4–6 and Mark 10:6–8.)

Consistent with the pattern in Genesis 1–2, sexual intercourse outside of the marriage relationship between one man and one woman is prohibited. For example, “You shall not commit adultery” (Exodus 20:14; reaffirmed by Jesus in Matthew 19:18; cf. Romans 13:9; James 2:11). In addi­tion, other specific kinds of sexual intercourse outside of marriage are also prohibited, such as prostitution (1 Corinthians 6:15–18), incest (Leviticus 20:11–21; 1 Corinthians 5:1–2), and bestiality (Leviticus 18:23; 20:15–16).

Homosexual conduct is also viewed as a sin (something contrary to God’s will) in several passages of the Bible. Leviticus 18:22 says, “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination [Hebrew to‘ebah, actions that are extremely displeasing to God].” Similarly, “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have commit­ted an abomination” (Leviticus 20:13; cf. Genesis 19; also Jude 7). These absolute Levitical prohibitions are grouped with other relevant sex proscriptions (incest, adultery, bestial­ity) and are considered first-tier sexual offenses that are grouped together in Leviticus 20:10–16...

...In a long list of sins, Paul also includes “men who prac­tice homosexuality” (1 Corinthians 6:9).This phrase translates two different Greek terms: malakos means “soft” or “effemi­nate” and was commonly used in the Greco-Roman world to refer to the “passive” partner in homosexual acts, while arsenokoites is a combination of Greek arsen (meaning “man”) and koite (here meaning “sexual intercourse”). The term arsenokoites was apparently coined by Paul from the Septu­agint (Greek translation) of Leviticus 20:13, and means (in plural) “men who have intercourse with men.” In 1 Timothy 1:10 Paul uses the same word arsenokoites in the midst of vices derived from “the law” (here, the second half of the Ten Commandments), which means that this verse also should be interpreted as an absolute prohibition of male-with-male intercourse, in keeping with Leviticus 18:22; 20:13. Early Jewish interpretation of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, and early Christian interpretation of 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10, also show that these verses were understood as absolute prohibitions against all types of homosexual conduct.”

http://www.worldmag.com/2013/04/the_bible_and_homosexuality

Mrs. Don-o, I know YOU understand the issue. What I don’t believe is that there is wiggle room that allows someone who has been a Christian for 8 years not to notice what God has said - particularly since she has been questioned at length on this issue for her entire time that she claims she has been a Christian.

Given that God’s natural revelation of His Will to man has allowed the vast majority of non-believers to figure it out, then someone who is aware of what God’s Word says - and KP certainly is by now - has no excuse whatsoever. It is simply open rebellion against God’s revealed will, and openly encouraging others to sin.


42 posted on 08/24/2014 8:42:48 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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