Posted on 08/19/2014 7:57:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
This coming August 22, the Feast of Mary, Queen of Heaven will be celebrated throughout the world. Deepertruth will focus this Tuesday on this most important topic.
The Marian teaching “Queen of Heaven” is steeped in Old Testament tradition.
There are those who misunderstand this teaching and will even claim it is Pagan. Nothing can be furthest from the truth.
Some will surely want to raise the scripture coming from Jeremiah 7:16-18, “You, now, do not intercede for this people; raise not in their behalf a pleading prayer! Do not urge me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing in the cites of Judah, in the streets of Jerusalem? The Children gather wood, their fathers light the fire, and the women knead dough to make cakes for the queen of heaven, while libations are poured out to strange gods in order to hurt me. Is it I whom they hurt, says the Lord; is it not rather themselves, to their own confusion?”
The queen of heaven that Jeremiah is speaking of is not the Blessed Virgin Mary who is the true Queen of Heaven, but rather a false god. The Israelites worshiped Pagan gods that displeased the Lord. The Babylonians worshiped a woman called “Ishtar“, she was the goddess of love and war. Prostitution was a part of the temple worship. She was known to have had many lovers.
Contrast this with the Blessed Virgin Mary who represents chastity, modesty, faithfulness, and love of God. She is the purest of God’s creation. Unlike Ishtar and other female goddesses who were worshiped and called “God the Mother“, the Blessed Virgin Mary is called Mother of God. Not because she is a goddess, she is not, but because Catholics recognize Jesus as Divine. He is truly God and man.
Is Mary the true Queen of Heaven, is there such a position within the kingdom of God? The answer is yes, and this Queen is the Blessed Virgin Mary.
The foundation for this is found in 1 Kings 2:12-20. “When Solomon was seated on the throne of his father David, with his sovereignty firmly established, Adonjah, son of Haggith, went to Bathsheba, the mother of Solomon. ‘Do you come as a friend?’ She asked. ‘Yes’, he answered, and added, ‘I have something to say to you,’ She replied, ‘Say it.’ So he said: ‘You know that the kingdom was mine, and all Israel expected me to be king. But the kingdom escaped me and became my brother’s, for the Lord gave it to him. But now there is one favor I would ask of you. Do not refuse me.’ And she said, ‘Speak on.’ He said, ‘Please ask King Solomon, who will not refuse you, to give me Abishag the Shunamite for my wife.’ ‘Very well,’ replied Bathsheba, I will speak to the king for you.’ Then Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, and the king stood up to meet her and paid her homage. Then he sat down upon his throne, and a throne was provided for the king’s mother, who sat at his right.”
Bathsheba thus became the first Queen of Israel, the Queen was not a wife of the king, but the King’s mother.
Jesus is truly the Son of David, The angel Gabriel spoke of Jesus saying, “Behold, you (Mary) will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.” (Luke 1:3-33).
Jesus said, “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, then I will enter his house and dine with him, and he with me. I will give the victor the right to sit with me on my throne, as I myself first won the victory and sit with my Father on his throne” (Revelation 3:20).
We see a glimpse of this heavenly glory with the Messiah in heaven in Psalms 45. In verse 9-10 we see a very important scripture relating to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of Jesus. It reads, “daughters of kings are among your ladies of honor; at your right hand stand the Queen in gold of Ophir”. Psalms 45:1-9 refers to Jesus and verses 9-17 concerns this queen. The same Queen St. John writes, “And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars” (Revelation 12:1).
Psalms 45 continues to say, “Hear, O daughter, consider, and incline your ear; forget your people and your father’s house; and the king will desire your beauty. Since he is your Lord, bow to him; the people of Tyre will sue your favor with gifts, the richest of the people with all kinds of wealth. The princess is decked in her chamber with gold-woven robes; in many colored robes she is led to the king, with her virgin companions, her escort, in her train. With joy and gladness they are led along as they enter the palace of the king. Instead of your fathers shall by your sons; you will make them princes in all the earth. I will cause your name to be celebrated in all generations; therefore the peoples will praise you forever and ever”(Psalms 45:9-17).
Notice that the “rich” seeks her favor, just like Adonjah had first sought Bathsheba’s intercession.
The Queen of Psalms 45 will be remembered and celebrated in all generations, and the people will praise her forever.
Is there any other woman in history that can fit this description? Hillary Clinton?
This praise will not be worship that is given to God alone, but it will be honor and petition.
Notice what Mother Mary says, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever” (Luke 1:46-55).
Psalms 45:9-17 and Luke 1:47-55 speak of the same person. The Virgin Mary, as the Queen of Heaven represents Jesus Christ in all that she does. There is no likeness to the pagan goddesses that were worshiped by the Babylonians and the cultures surrounding the nation of Israel in the Old Testament.
Are you aware of Chrislam?
if you say: "we have no use for Her Heart", know that in reality you are saying: "we have no use for the Lord's Heart!"
learn, feeble man, that My Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of your Mother are so united that in their perfect unity those Two Divine Hearts become One;
I tell you solemnly: if you acknowledge Her Heart, not only will you be acknowledging My Heart but also the Father's;
have I not said that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me?
if I am in the Father and the Father is in Me, My Heart, too, is in the Father and His Heart is in Mine;
to say that We are not inseparable and One, is to deny My Word;
do not be the slave of your spirit and do not be won by the arguments of the world;
Tonto, Catholics DO NOT WORSHIP MARY. You are showing your ignorance.
Instead of spewing out vile against Catholics for their veneration of the Blessed Mother, why not attack, with the same venom your PROTESTANT brothers the Lutherans and Episcopalians, who all honor Mary with the same zeal! And when you see them make the sign of the sign of the cross tell them how stupid and “unscriptural” they are.
If you were to treat any other person or object in the same fashion, it would be immediately condemned as idolatry, even by the RCC. This "we don't worship Mary" argument is the theological equivalent of Bill Clinton saying "it depends on what the meaning of is is." You can argue form all you want but the substance says something different.
Instead of spewing out vile against Catholics for their veneration of the Blessed Mother, why not attack, with the same venom your PROTESTANT brothers the Lutherans and Episcopalians, who all honor Mary with the same zeal!
Two good reasons:
1) All? The Episcopalians and Lutherans I know do no such thing. A Lutheran friend became so because he was concerned with the excessive Mary veneration in the RCC, along with other doctrinal concerns which he could not reconcile with Scripture, but the Marian theology was the last straw.
2) Even if some of them agree with the extreme views of the RCC in this matter, they don't start provocative threads on the FR.
I understand truth.
She doesn’t say adore me... she says SERVE ME... And if you do, I promises you stuff...
that is a lie from the pit of hell...
“Even if some of them agree with the extreme views of the RCC in this matter, they don’t start provocative threads on the FR”
Only “provocative” for those that are ignorant of 2,000 years of Christian teachings. The Catholic/Orthodox Church didn’t start a couple hundred years ago, or 50 or 20, or 10 or 1. If your ancestors are Christian and were Christian for the first 1,500 years after Christ died......THEY WERE CATHOLIC!
Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Protestantism is THE LIE FROM HELL.
I consider the whole thing unchristian. If you read on them and you’re a Christian, it’ll be easy to see why.
Basically, like many others, they’ve twisted scripture to their ends and added or taken away certain things to get their result.
There are a lot of things out there that appear close to the truth, but indeed aren’t. Remember the bible tells us that even Satan can appear as an angel of light.
We must always be diligent and in his word and pray for the ability to tell the good from the bad (discernment).
Don’t misunderstand me though, there are a lot of good people that are JW, Catholic, Buddhist or whatever else, but being good doesn’t save a person.
If Mary was sinless, why did she need a Savior???
P.S. I was born and raised rcc. No mas.
Protestantism is still too close to their mother, yes..
They don’t see it because we live in a counterfeit world where too much has been accepted as truth without proving all things...
If they spent more time in the mirror, they may be a little less likely to fight with their mother.
Since they spend a lot of time arguing false premises with their mother that just go round and round.
It's a squabble only when people don't make an adequate distinction between difference senses of a word.
Restaurant manager: You'd better go over and serve Table 4.
Waitress: No way. I adore God and Him Alone do I serve.
Have to admit, made me laugh to. The Jews actually did a great job of protecting most of what we now call 'the bible' for a very long time. In fact, Jesus and the first century church used these same 'old testament' books (or tanakh) when this thing called 'christianity' was just getting started.
But the quid pro quo that ‘our lady’ asserts for doing what she tells you to do is not God given..
She didn’t say serve God or serve my son by praying the rosary.. she said faithfully serve me..
And she isn’t tell one to go get a drink order... the lady is saying faithfully serve me by doing these prayers and I promise a,b,c...
The Me’s, My’s and I’s in those 15 promises attributed to the spririt are not from a servant of the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob or His only beloved Son..
A Torah observant Israelite would not have given one of those promises..
And we have the Messiah’s very words to Satan as proof in the first promise test.
That is pretty damning evidence for those with eyes to see or ears to hear..
Little kids that get these beads and instruction manuals have little or no discernment- and that is criminal.. but thankfully, I didn’t receive a set as a child...we are called to test and prove all things- even what the world accepts as givens...
Whatever this spirit points to- it isn’t the Messiah of Israel.. and protestants should be confronted with these too-because number 14 is one they would appear to have little disagreement with..
If she is lying on 1, is 14 a lie too?
Protestants would have diverse answers to that.. and watching their squirming wouldn’t be pretty..
Did anyone ever claim otherwise? When a tree forks, it only has one trunk and each fork has the same claim to the trunk. Protestants, Orthodox Catholics, and Roman Catholics share the same church ancestors.
Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Thanks for proving my point about the provocative nature of your posts.
Are you Jewish? Because if you are in this case you would be the same as us on this forum. Considered non-Christian, by some elements. :)
One of my favorites as of late:
Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, Our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve, To thee do we send up our sighs, Mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, And after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary! Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God, That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ. Amen.
No, I am not Jewish. But I do know what it is like to be considered to be a ‘non-christian’ but some ‘christians’.
Mary Queen of Heaven. It is because of such obvious in your face RCC sycretism (the blending of paganism with Christianity) that the other two monotheist religions, Judaism and Islam, see no credibility in Christian claims of truth.
They see it for what it is: idolatry. The RCC is a fault. The Papists will answer to God at the judgment for causing millions to be lost, millions of Jews and Muslims to reject the gospel. Sadly, most Jews and Muslims think RCC when they think of Christianity.
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