Posted on 08/19/2014 7:57:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
“Queen of Heaven”? LOL! Good one.
I realize I am wasting my breath, but you do realize that in eternity, that time and space have no meaning.
If the KJV was good enough for Paul and Jesus, it is good enough for you, right?
They let you out again, or did you escape??? But that's true...Most of the manuscripts from the Dead Sea Scrolls match the manuscripts used for the KJV...The KJV translaters used copies of the manuscripts that came from the areas around Jerusalem, NOT African manuscripts which are used for your preferred translations...
The KJV manuscripts are matches for those used by the Jewish people who wrote the Old Testament...I think I got a winner...
Who told you that???
It's about 3 months...
We became worthy the milli-second we accepted Jesus as our Savior...Your Mary must be following the Muzlim playbook...
I think this is a good test...The Catholic religion says to believe us (their Magisterium) because God told them the truth to pass out onto us...
A Baptist church will say, 'this is what we believe but don't take our word for it...Search the scriptures (like the scriptures tell you to do), the actual words of God that you know whether we are telling the truth'...
Quote-Perfect description of virtually every prot church
Of which all those protestant daughters were birthed from their mothers’s greco roman latin lies.
Inherited lies in Jeremiah 16:19 are certainly prophetic..
Mother and daughter-two peas in the same pod...no wonder their fights are so fruitful.
Best to divorce oneself from that whole greco roman latin family...
Fixed it for you.
It is called reading the Bible and interpreting it correctly, something that prots can't quite seem to understand.
Keep beating that expired equine, you may eventually get the dull and ignorant to agree with you.
Not sure what is considered a dead horse...
The greco roman latin world doesn’t win in the end..
No matter how much influence it has today in a counterfeit satanic world..
There really is a way to the Son without bending to the greco roman latin world’s counterfeits of both mother and daughter..
And Genuine beats the dead horse of counterfeits everyday....
Enjoy your Friya goddess day... I will enjoy His fourth day of the week.. not really sure what Friya did for the world but certainly scripture tells us our Heavenly Father created the sun, moon and stars on His fourth day..
I guess the greco roman latin mother and daughter influence on the dull and ignorant of the world really can not be understated..
Perhaps like a lot of people, I relate to the prodigal son. His path is/was/is my path and I tend to see his side of that story.
In a way, especially from having grown up in the buckle of the Bible belt South in multiple family situations, but none as a Catholic, I see the Protestant/Catholic divide as a similar sort of family struggle with the Protestants being the prodigal son.
People celebrate the prodigal son's return, but a big part of the story for me has always been why he left in the first place.
My experience/imagination has him saying "Well, if you had a sanctimonious, holier than thou, suck up older brother like I did, controlling everything and making your life a living hell, you'd have left too!" or something like that.
(Imagination is a wonderful thing, but dangerous in the wrong hands)
In other words, however bad his leaving is and however much it hurts Dad and the family, the split is not just the fault of one side, the protesting, "bad" boy who bailed. You know this by the attitude of the older brother when his prodigal brother finally comes back home.
There are real, legitimate reasons for the split, but the trouble is, family is stronger and complete together. Divided and separate, each brother is missing something, no matter how much of the whole they each might legitimately lay claim to.
With regard to our Christian family struggle, I am once again adopted into a family that's still trying to get back together. I'm new here and not taking sides.
Instead, I'm trying to figure out the bothers, get all the pieces to this family puzzle, see what fits together and then see what it looks like.
Fixed it for you.
You didn't fix anything...All your extra books and bibles came from a bunch of Egyptians from down there in Africa...You ought to read the bible to find out what God thinks about Egypt...
It is called reading the Bible and interpreting it correctly, something that prots can't quite seem to understand.
Let's have some chapters and verses, after you go and buy a bible...
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From this official Lutheran web site at "http://www.elca.org/en/Living- Lutheran/Blogs/2011/12/111216", read the following:
Luther supports praying with Mary and even to Mary, though this gets thumped out in the period of Lutheran Orthodoxy.Think again.
Luther and Philipp Melanchthon both believed the company of saints prayed for people on earth. In our communion liturgy we pray, "And so with Mary and Peter and all the witnesses of the Resurrection, with earth and sea and all their creatures, with angels and archangels, cherubim and seraphim we praise your name and join their unending hymn…"
We embrace the idea of praying with the saints and angels. We are part of the communion of saints.
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Jesus directed that prayer example specifically to the Father. Does that mean we shouldn't pray to Jesus, or to the Holy Spirit, or do you want to subtly redefine in your own words exactly what Jesus said there?
(By the way, do you ever ask other human beings to pray with you or for you? Can they answer your prayer directly, or can they rather help you by praying with and for you to God, who would always be the One who actually answers prayers. Can you discern that plain and simple distinction, which applies to humans both here and in the afterlife?)
Your first part is gone, orthodox Lutherans don't pray to Mary. Luther prayed to Mary when he was Catholic, not after. If you are going to ref a 'lutheran' source, don't go with anything with 'elca' in it. As Lutheran as Pelosi is Catholic.
We embrace the idea of praying with the saints and angels. We are part of the communion of saints.
Of course, the communion of saints prays for the church to God, not to each other. Lutherans don't pray to the dead, we pray to God. So you must think again, next time try and find a Lutheran source to quote. Do I go to Pelosi's or Biden's office to het authentic Catholic quotes? You shouldn't accept quotes from non-authentic Lutherans either.
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Where is that claim found in the Bible -- is it in the third chapter of the book of CommerceComet, or the fifth chapter of the book of Iscool, or the eight chapter of the book of Islam, or, where?
By attempting to restrict the definition of "prayer" to only what you personally dictate it to be is an example of the logical fallacy of "overly broad or narrow definitions".
One actual definition of prayer is "a similar personal communication that does not involve adoration, addressed to beings venerated as being closely associated with a deity, such as angels or saints", which can be found here at "http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prayer".
(By the way, when you use the term "supernatural being", are you somehow referring to human beings who have died? When Jesus spoke with Moses and Elijah (Matthew 17:3), you wouldn't say He was somehow making them into "gods", would you?)
As the Bible plainly shows, there are many different forms of prayer (as clearly shown by Jesus and some of His recorded prayers, such as the "Our Father", His prayers in Gethsemane, His prayers on the Cross, etc.) Do not try to falsely limit prayer to one kind of prayer only -- that is simply wrong.
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