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To: Legatus
My oldest is now 14 and my youngest is almost 8, I've waited for all fourteen years for the Church to get her act together. Very soon my children will be out in the world learning that the Church no longer teaches what their father has been teaching them all this time, frankly Francis, I'm terrified.

Consider going to a Bible centered Evangelical Church. Leave the sacramentalism that separates you and yours from a life changing faith in Christ Alone.

The weakness of a centralized hierarchy is that once error is established at the top there is no stopping it.

11 posted on 07/19/2014 6:06:12 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

The weakness of no centralized hierarchy is endless divisions based on endless different interpretations of Scripture as the past few hundred years have shown.


12 posted on 07/19/2014 6:26:01 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: wmfights
"Consider going to a Bible centered Evangelical Church."

Oh yeah, The First Evangelical Variant C11001.23 version 2.3 Block III Church of Turkey Street, right across the street from the Blue Grass Gospel Bar and Grill (and that ain't no joke, I pass that one several times a week).

I know the Pastor. Met him one weekend many years ago when it was my turn to baby sit the drunk tank. He's reformed and doesn't drink now I hear, which is why he broke off from the "Blue Grass Gospel Bar Churches of America" which is itself a recent fragment of the six hundred and sixty six fragments of a subset of the "Bible Subset Alone Hustlers of North Carolina, Inc." created when "Jim and Tammy World" or whatever it was called fell apart.

Although mostly Blue Grass, they open every service with the old Polish Hymn, "I Love Everybody and Everybody Loves Me" but without accordion accompaniment because in spite of being one of the Blue Grass, fragments they don't believe in music during their church services. Only before and after when the bar and grill are open.

(I must say, Christ may have walked past this particular Blue Grass Church when they had that big Grand Opening rush because the original cook made the best redeye gravy I've had in decades. Not water thin with only coffee and little of the fat cooked off the ham, but the cooked off fat still frying pan hot with bits and pieces of ham thickened with some cooked down fatback, but still more the consistancy of cowboy coffee you can stand a spoon up in and not nearly as thick as the weak runny sausage gravy so often passed of an the real deal, either. The problem is that unlike the Pastor, he isn't reformed and he's serving three to five on a drug charge right now. I wonder of God went with him, too. The new cook is a third rate jerk from Newark who can't even boil water without help.)

Sure, people should consider that.

Sorry, relying on the anti-Christ, anti-Christian, Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture by definition rules out being "Bible centered" in any way, shape, or form.

At best, they're Self and Self Alone Interpreted Luther Subset centered.

20 posted on 07/19/2014 7:19:13 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: wmfights

I spent 3 hours writing my original response to this only to have the electricity flicker as I was about to hit Post.

I don’t have the willpower to recreate it. The bottom line of what I was writing is that I didn’t find Jesus until I found Him in His one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I had quite a sermon going on how, for me, personal holiness is the key. It was what my grandfather spent his life preaching and it’s stuck with me across most of a lifetime. If one isn’t living a holy life then there’s no real point in pretending that one is born again or having a personal relationship with Jesus.

Congregational evangelicalism taught me about hypocrisy, not holiness. It’s what I grew up in... the sweet smile on the face and the knife in the back. I’m a PK, I watched the vile underbelly of “Bible centered churches” and there’s nothing in it that makes it special.


27 posted on 07/19/2014 10:11:02 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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