[metmom]

Those verses don’t use future tense, they use past tense.

I am currently seated in the heavenly places IN CHRIST JESUS.

Jesus promised that He would lose none of those whom the Father gave Him.

That verse about enduring to the end is for those in the end, going through the tribulation, not those of the church age. Again, another verse taken out of context.

[defconw]

Do you see what happens now? This thread now has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic. So Thanks for shutting us down. It would have been nice to have been able to keep our discussion to ourselves.

[CynicalBear]

>>That verse about enduring to the end is for those in the end, going through the tribulation, not those of the church age.<<

That “rightly dividing” thing gets a lot of people in trouble with scripture doesn’t it? Also when they think their “church” has superseded the nation of Israel all types of error occurs.