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To: ealgeone; vladimir998; editor-surveyor
Vlad wrote:So, if your sect believes in once-saved-always-saved you can look in any Bible and you won’t find a detailed explanation of OSAS anywhere in the Biblical text because none exists.

Eagleone replied; If one reads the text in the Greek one would understand that your salvation is secure in Christ.

ES I would love you to give this attention it deserves. I am going to sit over here in the corner eating my popcorn

500 posted on 07/15/2014 10:00:09 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga
Vlad wrote:So, if your sect believes in once-saved-always-saved you can look in any Bible and you won’t find a detailed explanation of OSAS anywhere in the Biblical text because none exists. Eagleone replied; If one reads the text in the Greek one would understand that your salvation is secure in Christ. ES I would love you to give this attention it deserves. I am going to sit over here in the corner eating my popcorn

Can't right now as I don't have my resources available, but maybe latter.

503 posted on 07/15/2014 10:01:56 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: verga; ealgeone; vladimir998; editor-surveyor

Why did you invite e-s into the discussion of which he was not a part?

You’re going to then sit back with your popcorn and watch the show?

That screams *pot stirring* if nothing else does.


506 posted on 07/15/2014 10:06:16 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: verga; ealgeone; vladimir998
>> “If one reads the text in the Greek one would understand that your salvation is secure in Christ.” <<

Since Christ is not the weak link in this matter, I would invite Eagle to show us how saying a prayer that is nowhere to be found in God's word constitutes a contract with the Father that no matter how far we depart from his commandments, he is bound to invite us into his rest, considering especially that the Son has declared “He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved.”

If we stray from his commandments, as have all of those promoting OSAS, and rejecting Torah, how can we be considered to have endured to the end? It seems that the requirement to be shown grace is to have confessed, repented, and begun the walk toward righteousness:

1John 3:7

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Our sole security is knowing that he has written his commandments on our heart, because we now desire to do his commandments.

How can one that not only has no desire to do his commandments, but vilely attacks those that do, have any such assurance? Wake up and smell the rot! .

598 posted on 07/15/2014 3:08:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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