Protestants: It's time to come back

“He says with an arrogant grin, standing in the blood of his own words on this thread, defying anyone to remember or read them, willing their minds to shut down before the brazenness of his lies. How thin the veneer, eh nemesis?”

In other words, you’ve got nothing. That’s what I thought.

Just remember, I never said, ANYTHING about the “current teachings of the Catholic Church - the murder of of those who disagree”?

You made a false claim. You’ve done that several times in this thread in fact.

As John Henry Newman, a former Protestant who knew Protestantism very well wrote:

“If you would have some direct downright proof that Catholicism is what Protestants make it to be, something which will come up to the mark, you must lie; else you will not get beyond feeble suspicions, which may be right, but may be wrong. Hence Protestants are obliged to cut their ninth commandment out of their Decalogue. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” must go, must disappear; their position requires the sacrifice. The substance, the force, the edge of their Tradition is slander. As soon as ever they disabuse their minds of what is false, and grasp only what is true,—I do not say they at once become Catholics; I do not say they lose their dislike to our religion, or their misgivings about its working;—but I say this, either they become tolerant towards us, and cease to hate us personally,—or, at least, supposing they cannot shake off old associations, and are prejudiced and hostile as before, still they find they have not the means of communicating their own feelings to others. To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation. There are indeed able men who can make a striking case out of anything or nothing, as great painters give a meaning and a unity to the commonest bush, and pond, and paling and stile: genius can do without facts, as well as create them; but few possess the gift. Taking things as they are, and judging of them by the long run, one may securely say, that the anti-Catholic Tradition could not be kept alive, would die of exhaustion, without a continual supply of fable.” (Lecture 4. True Testimony Insufficient for the Protestant View)

Unbelievable.

What's unbelievable? That the fight against the Albigensian heresy was war? That religion, as the foundation of society, was not relegated to the protestant post-modern realm of personal opinion? That the Albigensians, not unlike Al Qaeda, attempted to impose their evil heretical notions on their neighbors?

It doesn't matter if it was ONE. ~ Metmom

Indeed. So who grieves for Pierre de Castelnau?

Question: When did the Albigensian heresy arise?

Answer: Towards the close of the thirteenth century the Albigensians, in the southwest of France, threatened alike to destroy religious and social order. Pope Innocent III appointed special legates who were to co-operate with the civil and local ecclesiastical authorities in restoring order. In the civil-religious war which followed, horrible excesses and cruelties were committed by both parties; these are explained, without being justified, by the anarchy and bitterness of the struggle. The Catholic party triumphed, but for the ultimate success in extirpating the heresy the Church relied upon the efforts of such Apostolic men as St. Dominic and his disciples. [1]

This is by far the most disgusting post I have ever seen on FR. It actually takes my breath away.

Nothing on FR can approach the disgusting mockery of the Eucharist and the Blessed Virgin Mary.

[1] McGovern, J. J. (Ed.). (1906). In Catholic Pocket Dictionary and Cyclopedia. Chicago: Extension Press.

“You make a lot of mistakes, but I must say that you would make an excellent anti-Christ.”

I actually make very few mistakes about important matters, and yes, I would, if I renounced the Trinity and sided with Satan make an excellent anti-Christ. So would anyone. But I don’t serve him. You do - with your false witness. I love God, not any fallen angel. As I posted yesterday:

Although I would never boast of a conversion as dramatic and instantaneous as that of Alphonse Ratisbonne, I agree wholeheartedly with how he summed up the moment of his conversion:

“I came forth from a tomb, from an abyss of darkness ; and I was living, perfectly, energetically living. . . . and yet I shed tears. I saw before me the fearful miseries from which I had been rescued by the mercy of God ; I shuddered at the sight of my innumerable sins, and I was stupefied, melted, almost crushed by a sense of wonder and of gratitude. ... I thought of my brother with a joy beyond words ; but tears of compassion were mingled with my tears of love. Alas, that so many should go quietly down into this yawning abyss with their eyes closed by pride or
by indifference . . . should go down and be swallowed up of this horrible darkness... and then, my family, my betrothed, my poor sisters ! O torturing anxiety! My thoughts were of you, O ye beloved ones, — my first
prayers were for you ! . . . And are you never to raise your eyes towards the Saviour of the world, whose blood hath blotted out original sin ? O, how foul is the blot of that stain ! how completely it obliterates every trace by
which we might recognise the creature that was made in the image of God !”
http://www.amazon.com/The-Conversion-Monsieur-Marie-Alphonse-Ratisbonne/dp/1781486298

“You know what it is about, don’t you?”

The anti-Christ is a person not an “it”. When your English skills match your hubris come back and talk to me.

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