Posted on 07/05/2014 7:28:35 AM PDT by delchiante
CAMPOBASSO, Italy — Pope Francis says abandoning the traditionally Christian practice of not working on Sundays isn’t such a good change. Francis on Saturday traveled to Molise, an agricultural region in the heart of southern Italy where unemployment is chronically high. While he said poor people need employment to have dignity, he disagreed with opening stores and other businesses on Sundays as a way to create jobs.m
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Ezekiel 46:1
Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the SIX working days; BUT on the Sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the New Moon it shall be opened.
Thanks for this detailed explanation.
Please do study it, Raven..it can change the way one looks at the world..
But that can be unnerving...
And it isn’t an earthly eye thing.. because our earthly eyes can’t see this...
The spiritual blindness is real. But just as real is when the scales come off..
And if I can know this, anybody can...He is not a respecter of persons..
and I pray somebody out there gets answers to questions He hasn’t answered yet that I have...
Prove all things...we all have accepted so much we never proved or tested...
Please do study it, Raven..it can change the way one looks at the world..
But that can be unnerving...
And I do not believe God would hide secrets to salvation in his word that it would take a mathematician to find, don`t mean no offence just don`t know any other words.
God tells us that we should labor six days and rest on the seventh,That is simple.
So if some one would prove to me that Saturday was not the seventh day then I would certainly consider it but it looks to me that God is talking about 1 day of rest out of seven.
And if I can know this, anybody can...>>>>>
Maybe you are not as simple as I am.
I am simpler!
A homeless man has a better chance of obeying His calendar than some big CEO or leader in govt...
His calendar just seems strange and foreign to us because we were not taught it. Heck, it took Israel 40 years to learn it in the wilderness. (And they still dont do it right if my study is progressing correctly) That is a steep learning curve we are on.
But Israel didn’t understand why He commanded them do what He commanded them to do, when He commanded them to do it.
We do have 2000 years of history to put the shadow and rehearsal pieces together, and it is only by His Spirit we can know this because the world just doesn’t care.
And that appears to include His Bride.
I don’t know a Bride that wouldn’t want to remember Her Bridegroom’s birthday and the day He died. They may not be interested in His circumcision, dedication in the temple, baptism, etc. But He put them on set times for Israel.
I think a wise virgin can know those. And If His first coming was so perfectly appointed to His calendar, I don’t think observing that calendar is foolish at all, to prepare for His second coming or His government in the Kingdom. Always watching.
His Bride wouldnt have to guess or fudge with december 25 and easter (even when easter as passover have no linkage) and cringe when we see santa and the easter bunny. We can boldly say those are counterfeits and let the secular humanists have their ungodly fun.
Scripture tells us He was born on a new moon day in the 6th day of His month. (Believe it or not, revelation 12 gives us the clue and an understanding of His sun, moon and stars can lead us to the answer)
An astronomer I am not, but those stars are more important than we care to know.
So, the stars tell us He was born on a New moon- New moons have no significance in the world (except to the jews and muslims on certain months of their calendar) and zip, zero, to Christendom but scripture gives us a vision of a new moon day birth for the Messiah.
From that little date, according to the Ezekiel template, found hidden in prophecy, one can then know what day Our Messiah was circumcised (a sabbath)
We can then know that 40 days of purification was needed for His mother, according to Torah- and Messiah could be dedicated to Yah in the temple.
Jews call it today the 40 days of awe... the time from the first day of the 6th month to the 10th day of the 7th month.
They call that 10th day of the 7th month Yom Kippur-the Day of atonement!
There are some hints to that in scripture as well.
So, based on His calendar, at 40 days old, the Messiah had fulfilled the day of atonement, 30 plus years before His atoning death. And at just a tender age of 45 days old, He dwelt in tabernacle for the feast of Tabernacles five days after His dedication in the temple..
I susect Israel has another reason for why the day of atonement is that date. but again, the Bride need not suspect.
Fast forward and we see His baptism and another 40 days of ‘purification’. I think it is in Luke that He was 30. But that word ‘about’ is different than what we understand and I have no reason to doubt the Messiah was baptized thirty years, to the day, of His birth, a birth written in the sky, an appointed day- a new moon day again in His 6th month.
That leaves us with passion week and the events of His death, burial and resurrection.
We know those details much better but yet His Bride ignores that Passover can fall on any day (proof is that jews are not bound to a Friday passover each year because they use the moon), and uses the perpetual Friday, Saturday and Sunday template..
I am not sure if that bothers believers, but it did me..
We know He died on Passover and rested on the 15th, which is always a Sabbath on His calendar, and raised on the 16th, a feast.
New moon, sabbath, feasts all found using His calendar.. all set and appointed times, given to Israel, pointing to the Way, Truth and Life..
None of which is findable with the pope gregory calendar.
If He fulfilled those in perfect fashion in life, as I think scripture and His calendar confirms, there are only a couple days left not fulfilled for His return:
Feast of Trumpets( a new moon day) and Feast of Tabernacles (feast)
The Word really did become flesh and dwelt among us. That won’t change for His return.
And the wise virgins in the parable were prepared for the Bridegroom. and the foolish virgins, who were still virgins, were left out.
Is it a salvation issue? Is it a worship issue? Is it a kingdom issue?
I think scripture and those parables tell us there is more than believing and receiving.
I am not the judge and my opinion means nothing but I understand now why Israel was told to do what it did on specific days...and I can observe a new moon, sabbath or feast in a completely new and fresh ‘worship’ way..without ever having to convert...
It is His rules, His government, His Kingdom He is preparing us with..there will be no ‘saturday’ or ‘sunday’ in His Kingdom, but scripture tells us New Moons and Sabbaths are a part of worshipping Him.Isaiah 66:22-24..
And people can choose any day and call it their sabbath... is that worship in spirit and truth or just worship in spirit and ‘our’ truth?
And it isn’t meant to be accusatory- I was right there with evrybody as early last year- but I started to want to defend my faith and why I worshipped how/when I did. And the answers kept coming back-counterfeit...
Our truth is not from scripture, as showed. It is from the world and its systems. We are called not to be conformed to the world and to come out of her in another place.
This world really is not a friend to a believer.. but we are chummy with the world because the world tells us what ‘time’ it is and really who is there to question it?
Well, I question it boldly today..
Why do we need the parable of the foolish virgins to describe the Kingdom?
They would be given access just because they are virgins under christendom today.
Nor would we need scriptures like ‘ I never knew you’. All believers would be welcomed into the Kingdom..
His entire ministry was teaching us the Kingdom. What it is.. what it isn’t.. who gets in. who is left out.
And there are believers not getting in..
I don’t want to hear ‘I never knew you, depart from me you worker of lawlessness’. Maybe that is a fearful stance but we are called to fear.. that kind of fear is the beginning of wisdom..
I ‘know’ Him far more intimate now and I haven’t seen the inside of a church in over a year..
Nor do I have any desire to go back.
returning to vain worship, that the world calls worship, flies in the face of what He is teaching me.
As far as I know, no church would even think about ‘time’ the way I do.
This isn’t a ‘one’ denomination is better than another thing... it actually clumps all christendom together wth the rest of the unbelieving world and makes those debates over doctrines that we see so much here as just circular debates, that don’t grow His Kingdom.
Worshipping in Spirit and Truth in some hole in the wall is more desirable to me than worshipping in Spirit and half truths/counterfeits in the most beautiful sanctuary ever made.
What if, just suppose, what the world ‘knows’ of Him, is just a bunch of counterfeits (right down to His very name) and not genuine at all? That was crazy talk a couple years ago for me... it isn’t anymore.
I thank Him for His Mercy and Grace because we all fall short whether we know any of this at all. I dont know it because I am smart- I asked, sought and knocked, and was willing to do what He teaches me..
None of us are good enough and all we can do is trust and obey.
That is more clear to me daily. Our journey is a bumpy one and the world is not a safe refuge- He is....and Truth will win out.
But His Truth wins, not our versions of it..
May He bless your journey more than He has mine!
I am simpler!
A homeless man has a better chance of obeying His calendar than some big CEO or leader in govt...
I was homeless a few times over 60 years ago and it gets mighty hungry.
I think we all have to work out our own salvation and we can not blame any one else but our selves if we fail.
But from what you say even the apostles never knew anything about what you are saying.
And I really do believe we only know a tit bit of what there is out there, so it may well be true.
But I think I will just stick to the N.T. and try to improve on what I have.
Sounds like you are a success story, Raven!
Praise God!
I have never been physically homeless.. always have had somewhere to go...
But spiritually, I was homeless for 40 years....it is nice to be out of that wilderness...
Hidden manna...
I really think the apostles would look at our worship today and go, huh?
The apostles didn’t understand it while it was happening but they also didn’t have bibles in their hands like you and I do, and 2000 years of hindsight...
Satan didn’t know the plan either or he never would have allowed Messiah to be killed on Passover..
our Heavenly Father placed the entire plan in His sky and entrusted it to Israel to observe it and teach it. Almost like a pageant...and they were to rehearse it annually, around agriculture, to disguise His plan.
There is a lot we don’t know and imagine being a Jew and not understanding why the 8th day for circumcision, or why 40 days of purification after birth of a male child.. or day of atonement on the 10th day of the 7th month...
I could see a Jewish child pestering their parents with questions of why, driving their parents crazy..
They rehearse and do so much, and they truly do not now why...or they have answers that always point back to Moses if they can’t find a good answer.
We know the why, just never think about it...and it all points to their Messiah... our Messiah too.. The world’s savior...
Maybe all this does is repair a breach... or at least has me apologizing to religious jews seeking their promised Messiah and not seeing Him in non Torah holy days like christmas and easter...
They have been blinded.. and christendom has been a tool that has been used, sad to say...
Sounds like you are a success story, Raven!
I really think the apostles would look at our worship today and go, huh?>>>>>>>>
I do not doubt that.
We know the why, just never think about it...and it all points to their Messiah... our Messiah too.. The world’s savior...>>>>>>
Amen to that.
They have been blinded.. and christendom has been a tool that has been used, sad to say...>>>>>>
Yes it has been used and thank God we have the gospel which Jesus gave us, in some case`s because of the Church and in other cases in spite of the Church.
Just know that failure is only to be an event, and not a person...
We see evidence of that throughout scripture with His own chosen people..
Psalm 40:2-3 (KJV)
2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.
3 And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praie unto our Elohim: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in Yah.
Amen to that.
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