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To: BlackElk

Well, I thank you for the response, but it’s not a very good argument to make that somehow my concerns over the GOP-nominated Catholics aren’t credible because the Huffington Post opposes the conservative Catholics on the Court. That happens a lot in politics, and means nothing because my reasons and theirsfor writing are completely different.

And again, as I’ve written to other, there is no such thing as religion and politics being mutually exclusive. The SC justices ultimately interpret the Constitution and decide issues on their personal beliefs. Of course, that’s why they are intensely scrutinized (including on their religion) before beingnominated and then during confirmation. If religion and politics is separate, how do you decide when life begins, or what marriage is, etc.?


85 posted on 07/04/2014 9:07:04 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On; Dr. Sivana; Mrs. Don-o; Viennacon
I have indulged the presumption that your reasons are not identical to those of the HuffPo. Although HuffPo is blaring the liberal flavor of the week by complaining about the number of Catholics on the SCOTUS, as an Evangelical, your reasons would likely differ.

First, Sonia Sotomayor is no more a legitimate Roman Catholic for these purposes than John Paul Stevens or Herod Blackmun should be accused of being Protestant believers much less Evangelicals. That leaves us with arguably five Catholics on SCOTUS at the moment. Scalia, Alito, and Thomas seem fully Catholic. Chief Justice Roberts certainly blew it on Obozocare but generally seems fully Catholic. Anthony Kennedy is a bit more questionable and his jurisprudence on abortion since Webster seems more motivated by characteristics other than his Catholicism.

Second, I assume that no one needs to be convinced that abortion is quite taboo to anyone CLAIMING Catholicism (Sebelius, Pelosi, Kerry, anything named Kennedy related to the Hyannisport Kennedys, Rosa DeLauro, Dick Durbin, Tom Harkin, etc., etc. do not qualify). We Catholics regard material assistance to or complicity with abortion is a mortal sin and therefore the grounds for automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication. Is Evangelical Christianity any stronger on this matter of abortion? If so, please explain. Ditto: "Gay" "Marriage."

Third, I can well understand the desire to make the near future differ from the near past as to the professed religion of nominees and therefore judges. OTOH, as noted by Dr. Sivana, there is a specific constitutional provision prohibiting religious tests for any public office under the constitution. Yes, I understand that it is honored more in the breach than in the performance. I would assure you that, as a Catholic, I would privately go out of my way to find qualified and brilliant jurists who are Evangelical as potential nominees to balance your concerns. I don't think Harriet Myers was what you had in mind.

Fourth, although Catholics and Evangelicals certainly disagree on some matters, few of them are likely to be decided by the SCOTUS or other courts because they are purely theological. We agree on the overwhelming majority of Scripture and differ on few matters that are justiciable issues.

Fifth, when life begins can be determined scientifically as the point of conception since that is the point when a new person with his/her own unique DNA exists. I will side with my faith over claims of science but science on that one seems clear and completely in agreement with faith and probably with your faith as well. Abortion tends to be defended by some folks of whatever persuasion who want to be soft and mushy and gushy toward the mom's perceived "need" to dispose of the baby. That is a matter of their lack of faith not their respective faiths.

Sixth, you have noted the high level of support given by Evangelicals to the GOP. If the liberals (not you) attack the Catholic faith of four justices, arguably a fifth and even Sotomayor who has long-since apostasized, Catholic rightward movement can be expected. We don't demand that Catholics fill vacancies but we won't sit still for organized attacks on the Catholicism of nominees either especially by the heathens who attack Christianity generally and our nation while they are at it. Again, not you.

Seventh, the justices ought to be applying the words of the constitution against challenged statutes or regulations or actions rather than indulging their own personal religious beliefs. We have a much more serious problem with committed leftist non-believers who imagine that they have a license to work an agenda that is not constitutional.

Eighth, we may differ from time to time on issues like immigration. I had been strongly favorable to it and my faith played a role in that. More recently I have concluded that those who are alarmed and oppose the current immigration abuses have the better argument for the foreseeable future. We have already seen more immigrants enter legally or illegally than we can socially digest. We need a rest as a nation on this. The Catholic bishops should back out of this issue. A high percentage of Catholics here also disagree with many bishop's statements favoring disarmament, welfare state expansion and such issues.

We need a firm alliance in our society between Catholics and Evangelicals and others of similar beliefs to restore our civilization rather than an ongoing squabble over religious differences. Otherwise we are mud wrestling for the entertainment of our mutual enemies.

May God bless you and yours!

93 posted on 07/04/2014 10:36:27 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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