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To: boatbums

You rely on the opinions of men?

Let’s stick with the Bible, how many millions will spend eternity in Hell fire due to Gill?

I did not contradict myself.

A status of general compliance with Torah, simply for the sake of being known for complying with Torah is of no value whatsoever. That is why most Jews are lost.

Yeshua demands that we obey his commandments out of love and belief in him. To those that do that, the effect is the teaching of true righteousness through more than simple knowledge of what sin is declared to be by the law. It creates a desire to please him that is visibly lacking in those that reject what he has commanded.

The rejectors of his commandments often insist that they are “saved by grace,” but then insist that grace consists of automatic righteousness granted for saying a prayer that is nowhere to be found in the Word of God. They don’t even recognize that this is totally a works based vacuum of man’s creation.

John’s first epistle is the best place to get one’s head straight. John was the only person on Earth that had a close personal, human relationship with our savior, and probably the only one that fully understood his words. He stood there at the cross and watched, and fully understood each and every thing that happened, as it happened, as is told in his 5th chapter.

John fully recognized that those that followed his commandments willingly were the only ones that truly loved him; the rest were just in it for a guarantee of salvation that could not be had free of that special love.

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925 posted on 07/04/2014 4:53:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
The rejectors of his commandments often insist that they are “saved by grace,” but then insist that grace consists of automatic righteousness granted for saying a prayer that is nowhere to be found in the Word of God

Here's the sinner's prayer right here...

Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

Here's a person who recognizes the authority of God...The person know that God has control of his destiny...The person recognizes he needs God's forgiveness...

The person recognizes that there is nothing he can do to please God...The person is contrite; humble...The person realizes he has sinned against God and seeks God's mercy...And God's response to the sinner's prayer???

Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

935 posted on 07/04/2014 5:51:53 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor
You rely on the opinions of men? Let’s stick with the Bible, how many millions will spend eternity in Hell fire due to Gill?

No one will be in hell because of Gill just as no one will be because of any false teaching - God is able to shine the light of truth to those hearts diligently seeking Him. You want to pretend you aren't relying upon the opinions of men (i.e., Armstrong, Russell, Rood, White, et al)? I quoted Gill because he explained the meaning behind the FULL quote of Paul WRT "justified by the law".

I did not contradict myself.

Sure you did and you continue to do so by your insistence that ONLY obedience to the Law of Moses (your version of it anyway) is what justifies one to be saved at the end of ones' life. You say ONLY this obedience counts if one really loves Jesus and you have to love Jesus and obey His commandments if you will be saved. You mock the sinner's prayer where a truly contrite sinner admits his lost condition and surrenders to the mercy and grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ to redeem him, when Scripture tells us that this IS the only way anyone CAN be saved. It is NOT by our works of righteousness nor works of the law but purely by the grace of God.

If we confess with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead, we will be saved, Scripture says. That and hundreds more like it assure us of the grace of God available to all who trust in Christ and we thereby know we HAVE eternal life in Christ. Like I said, we are saved by grace THROUGH faith and NOT works - neither the Law or works of love or any other commandments. We do not and never could deserve or merit everlasting life - it is a GIFT of God.

942 posted on 07/04/2014 9:48:33 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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