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To: CynicalBear
>> “There is no “will be” in any of those or any others.” <<
1Pet.1

[1] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
[2] Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
[4] To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
[5] Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
[6] Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
[7] That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
[8] Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
[9] Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
[10] Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
[11] Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
[12] Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
[13] Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

As you can plainly see, when a plain speaking man tells it, all there is is that which will be if we endure to the end.

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907 posted on 07/03/2014 7:47:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; CynicalBear
1 Peter 1:9 "Receiving" is "komizomenoi." That is a present participle. So what are Peter's readers receiving in an ongoing way in the present (the effect of the present participle) as a consequence of their faith?  Their Salvation!

This isn't hard. You've probably done a contract or two in your lifetime.  You should understand that where the terms and conditions of the contract have been met, the promised goods or services become yours by right, even if you may be inconveniently positioned to take full possession of them at the moment. They do belong to you.  It is right to speak of them as that which belongs to you.

In the case of salvation, we are right to be speaking of having obtained a place of inheritance as sons and daughters in Christ ...
Eph 1:11  In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
"Have obtained." Past tense. Not future. Past. Let that soak in for a moment.  It is a glorious truth, is it not? That inheritance is ours. We own it. The terms and conditions have already been met in the righteous life, substitutionary death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Paul here is saying the outcome is set, i.e., this contract is not subject to modification.

That status, being co-inheritor with Christ of all the heavenly blessings, is not obtained in some carnal competition for superior righteousness by extending the list of "good things we do." How does Peter describe it?  The end of our faith.  The place our faith keeps on taking us: The salvation of our souls.

Why then does Peter speak of the futuristic elements? Because some elements of our salvation, though we own it all now, will not come into our possession until we are ready to enjoy them. God holds it in trust for us. When we come of age, we will come into all of it. How awful it would be to enter heaven now, with unredeemed bodies growing old and minds going senile.  Much better to wait until we have our new bodies and our resurrection life in the full force of eternal glory before we enter heaven's gates and take full possession of what even now is our right to own:
Rom 8:15-17  For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  (16)  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:  (17)  And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

910 posted on 07/03/2014 11:20:02 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: editor-surveyor; Springfield Reformer

I think Springfield Reformer in his response to you in post 910 said it very well. Scripture clearly shows your views in error.


919 posted on 07/04/2014 12:28:48 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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