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To: roamer_1
Acts 15:22-29 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter: “The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.

No obligations to keep the feast days, the holy days, the Torah.

You keep contradicting yourself. You say *Save by grace* but then demand something the leaders of the early church and the Holy Spirit never required, and that is keeping the Torah.

Not to mention that the feast days can't be properly kept without the Temple and a consecrated priesthood to make the proper sacrifices.

So this obsession with keeping the Torah is meaningless.

If getting back to the Hebrew roots makes you feel better, if you like keeping the feast days, if they are special to you and mean something to you, have at it.

But don't demand that everyone do what you do just because you think it's right when Scripture does not demand it of us.

All the admonitions of Scripture are for living according to the law of love, not the Law of the of covenant.

We are under the new covenant and are not bound by the old one any more. God doesn't relate to us that way, we don't need to relate to God that way.

729 posted on 06/30/2014 6:41:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; roamer_1

>> “No obligations to keep the feast days, the holy days, the Torah.” <<

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They, like every other congregation that the apostles visited, were already doing that. That is the essence of the Way of Yeshua.

It was the interference of the Pharisees promoting their own false law, and demanding circumcision, that the council was about.


730 posted on 06/30/2014 6:51:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: metmom

>> “Not to mention that the feast days can’t be properly kept without the Temple and a consecrated priesthood to make the proper sacrifices.” <<

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Proving that you have no understanding of what Yehova’s Appointed Times are all about!

The only Day that had anything to do with sacrifice was Passover, which Yeshua has fulfilled.

The rest of them are purely family observances done in a prescribed manner.
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731 posted on 06/30/2014 6:59:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: metmom
For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

No obligations to keep the feast days, the holy days, the Torah.

Context:

Act 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

I have explained this to you numerous times - Why 15:21? Because early Christians were attending the synagogues to hear the Word, and they would be taught Moses as a matter of course. And they were.

You keep contradicting yourself. You say *Save by grace* but then demand [...]

I have demanded nothing. That is WAY above my pay grade. And I have not contradicted myself.

[...] something the leaders of the early church and the Holy Spirit never required, and that is keeping the Torah.

I disagree with that entirely - Even a quick perusal of James will show his intention. 'James the Righteous' - That means Torah-keeper in Hebrew-speak. Peter says to keep Torah, John says to keep Torah. Yeshua said to keep Torah... Paul said to keep Torah...

Not to mention that the feast days can't be properly kept without the Temple and a consecrated priesthood to make the proper sacrifices.

We have already been down this road too. There is PLENTY of evidence of people keeping the feasts outside of the Temple precincts. Not everyone could make it to the Temple, even for the three feasts that are required to be kept at the Temple. Many could not afford to travel from their homes... They kept the feasts where they were, even as they do today.

But don't demand that everyone do what you do just because you think it's right when Scripture does not demand it of us.

I have demanded nothing.

All the admonitions of Scripture are for living according to the law of love, not the Law of the of covenant.

They are the same thing.

We are under the new covenant and are not bound by the old one any more.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev_14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev_15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb,, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

Just sayin'...

742 posted on 07/01/2014 1:03:43 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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