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To: ravenwolf
Are you trying to put words in my mouth or are you saying the whole thing was a conspiracy?

Since you are so painfully illogical, you do not realize that the Apostles, of necessity, must have been in on Paul's desire to "change" Christianity.

1) First, in their agreement in doctrine in all the Gospels, as well as in their writings. Paul's teachings on salvation by grace alone and predestination of the elect can be found in the Gospels, especially that of John, who is the most explicit in the teachings on election.

2) Next, in the affirmation of all of the Apostles of Paul's authenticity, as affirmed by Paul himself (but then, perhaps you will say he is a liar), the book of Acts, and Peter's epistle, wherein Paul's writing is given the title of "scripture."

3) In the lack of any writing by any of the other Apostles condemning Paul, and contradicting what we read of in Acts and in Paul's own writings. To ignore this, we must then believe that the Apostles either did condemn Paul, but that no evidence of it existed, whether in the enemies of Christianity, or in any writings by the Apostles or anyone, since none bothered to take the time to defame Paul.

So, we are only left with one real conclusion: That the Apostles were all in on the same eeeevil conspiracy to "change" Christianity.

If I knew anything I would be rich but if any one can not see that there are contradictions concerning Paul they are about as spiritual as a fence post.

Notice that the apparent member of an non-Christian religious cult does not bother to even defend his absurd claims.

215 posted on 06/25/2014 1:15:48 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Since you are so painfully illogical, you do not realize that the Apostles, of necessity, must have been in on Paul’s desire to “change” Christianity.


There was nothing to change, Jesus Christ is what the apostles taught, that is what it was all about, Jesus died so those who believed in him could have eternal life.

that is what the apostles taught and that is what Paul taught, I said nothing about this, why are you arguing with me about this?

I did not say the other apostles accused Paul of any thing, if you think I did then copy and paste my words if you know how to do that.

What I said was that Paul was by his own words accused of being a liar and of not being an apostle, I will not give you the verse because I have already did that.

2) Next, in the affirmation of all of the Apostles of Paul’s authenticity, as affirmed by Paul himself>>>>>>>

It was affirmed by Peter, yes.

So, we are only left with one real conclusion: That the Apostles were all in on the same eeeevil conspiracy to “change” Christianity.>>>>>>>

Are you saying that you believe there was some kind of conspiracy, I don`t know what you are talking about.

Notice that the apparent member of an non-Christian religious cult does not bother to even defend his absurd claims.>>>>>>

I do not know anything about the Orthodox Presbyterian but I would not go so far as to say they are a cult.


219 posted on 06/25/2014 2:24:43 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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