daniel1212:
We have been down the priest [presbyter] discussion before. Most of the Catholics who go evangelical are “make up your on religion Catholics” and tend to be very poorly catechized Catholics and if truth be told, many are divorced Catholics who remarried and did not like to be told they could not receive Communion in the Catholic Church, so they go to a evangelical church and are told to call the altar [or something to that effect] and they are now once saved always saved protestants and many of those types never really at their core leave Catholic Church as many of them continue to vent over leaving it or attack the faith of their ancestors. I do believe in many instances the happiness they project in their new found evangelical protestant faith is a façade.
And nothing in those statistics is inconsistent with what I stated. I was only referring to Catholic priests and where they go when they leave. Very few go to fundamentalist or evangelical protestant groups.
As for Catholic laity, that is a whole different discussion. It seems as many go unaffiliated as Protestant 14% to 15% and of those that go Protestant 40% go mainline and 60% go evangelical. But in total, of the 29% of Catholics who left [lets say 29% of 1,000 to use a number] would give you 290 Catholics, 140 of those are basically atheist or agnostic [unaffiliated] 60 are mainline-liberal protestants, so that is 200 and the other 90 or evangelical, so about 69% of former Catholics who leave go to more liberal directions, atheist-unaffiliated or mainline-liberal Protestantism. Catholic Clergy almost exclusively go that direction, i.e. towards liberal Protestantism [Episcopalians, ELCA Lutherans, Methodist].
In summary, those statistics don’t surprise me at all an confirm what would be my ex ante predictions.
Which is why it is best not to try to defend it.
Most of the Catholics who go evangelical are “make up your on religion Catholics” and tend to be very poorly catechized Catholics,[citation needed] and if truth be told,[citation needed] many are divorced Catholics who remarried and did not like to be told they could not receive Communion in the Catholic Church,[citation needed] so they go to a evangelical church..
This is just another damage-control assertion that is contrary to the research:
The percentage of adults Catholics who have been married and divorced is 28%, while Evangelicals were at 26%. Atheists or agnostic were at 30% - . http://www.barna.org/family-kids-articles/42-new-marriage-and-divorce-statistics-released
Over 75% of those who left Catholicism attended Mass at least once a week as children, versus 86% having done so who remain Catholics today.^
Regarding reasons for leaving Catholicism, less than 30% of former Catholics agreed that the clergy sexual abuse scandal played a role in their departure. ^
71% of converts from Catholicism to Protestant faith said that their spiritual needs were not being met in Catholicism, with 78% of Evangelical Protestants in particular concurring, versus 43% of those now unaffiliated. ^
Only Protestants Only 23% (20% now evangelical) converts from Catholicism were unhappy about Catholicism's teachings on abortion/homosexuality (versus 46% of those now unaffiliated); 23% also expressed disagreement with teaching on divorce/remarriage; 16% (12% now evangelical) were dissatisfied with teachings on birth control, 70% said they found a religion the liked more in Protestantism.
55% of evangelical converts from Catholicism cited dissatisfaction with Catholic teachings about the Bible was a reason for leaving Catholicism, with 46% saying the Catholic Church did not view the Bible literally enough.
81% of all Protestant converts from Catholicism said they enjoyed the service and worship of Protestant faith as a reason for joining a Protestant denomination, with 62% of all Protestants and 74% Evangelicals also saying that they felt God's call to do so. ^
But if anything, if these souls were looking for a church they could feel at home in then they would have stayed in Rome. http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html#MORAL
and many of those types never really at their core leave Catholic Church as many of them continue to vent over leaving it or attack the faith of their ancestors. I do believe in many instances the happiness they project in their new found evangelical protestant faith is a façade.
This is a rather interesting examping of Roman reasoning in damage control, which reminds me of the homosexuals who insist those who oppose them are driven by a secret fear they may be one!
Consistent with this, we may surmise the apostles were crypto-Judaizers, unhappy with their new faith since they attacked it. Even the Pharisees did not think of that one.
And nothing in those statistics is inconsistent with what I stated. I was only referring to Catholic priests and where they go when they leave. Very few go to fundamentalist or evangelical protestant groups.
From what we know, but as said, that is no surprise, since these ones are the closest to Rome, including being liberal overall.