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To: daniel1212
again you did not read my original post I said I knew four Evangelicals who were fallen away Catholics and who divorced and remarried and are now Evangelicals.

Of every single protestant I know, and there are more than fifty only one or two are not divorced and remarried protestant.

protestants are the ones who need damage control - you are the ones who celebrate when fallen away Catholics find a place at your 'Catholic lite - protestant easy' sects.

and my number is only four Evangelicals however slightly less than 50 total protestants who are fallen away Catholics who are divorced an now protestant.

You don;t need to believe my 'biased' polling just use your eyes and count the divorced protestants among your number who are fallen away Catholics.

As I said several times protestants get our dregs and Catholics get your best:

John Adams: Beatified person and Catholic martyr.[4]

Mortimer J. Adler: American philosopher, educator, and popular author. He converted, from agnosticism, after decades of interest in Thomism.[5][6]

G. E. M. Anscombe: British analytical philosopher and theologian who introduced the term consequentialism into the English language[17]

Francis Arinze: Nigerian Cardinal and Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments[18]

Johann Christian Bach: Composer, the youngest son of Johann Sebastian Bach.[20]

Thomas Bailey (priest): A royalist and controversialist whose father was Anglican bishop Lewis Bayly.[21]

Conrad Black: A Canadian-born historian, columnist, UK peer, and convicted felon for fraud.[42]

Tony Blair: former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom; converted Dec. 22, 2007, after stepping down as prime minister[43]

Andrea Bocelli: Italian tenor.[44]

Cherry Boone: Daughter of devoutly evangelical Christian entertainer, Pat Boone; she went public about her battle with anorexia nervosa[45]

Robert Bork: American jurist and unsuccessful nominee to the United States Supreme Court. Converted to Catholicism in 2003. His wife was a former Catholic nun.[46]

G.K. Chesterton: British writer, journalist and essayist, famous for his Christian Apologetics Orthodoxy, Heretics and the Everlasting Man[64]

Christina, Queen of Sweden: Seventeenth-century monarch.[66]

Avery Dulles: American Jesuit Theologian, Professor at Fordham University.[86] (Son of former Secretary of State John Foster Dulles.)

Leonid Feodorov: An Exarch of the Russian Greek Catholic Church, he was a Gulag survivor beatified by Pope John Paul II.[102][103]

Fathia Ghali: Daughter of King Fuad I of Egypt and his Queen, Nazli Sabri. In 1950, both mother and daughter converted to Catholicism from Islam. Enraged, King Farouk I forbade them from returning to Egypt again. After Farouk's death, they asked President Anwar Sadat to restore their passports, which he did.

Alec Guinness: British actor[129] who the Catholic Association of Performing Arts (UK) named an award after.[130]

Kimberly Hahn: Former Presbyterian; theologian, apologist and author of many books[132]

Scott Hahn: Former Presbyterian minister; theologian, Scripture scholar and author of many books[133]

Thomas Morton Harper: Jesuit priest, philosopher, theologian and preacher.[134]

Chris Haw: Theologian and author of numerous books, including one detailing his conversion away from evangelical Protestantism.[135]

Levi Silliman Ives: Episcopal Church of the USA Bishop of North Carolina.[156][157]

Katharine, Duchess of Kent: The first member of the British Royal Family to convert to Catholicism for more than 300 years.[165]

Lawrence Kudlow: CNBC host and business columnist.[175][176]

William Lockhart: First member of the Oxford Movement to convert and become a Catholic priest.[187]

Frederick Lucas: Quaker who converted and founded The Tablet.[189]

Clare Boothe Luce: American playwright, editor, politician, and diplomat. Wife of Time-Life founder Henry Luce. She worked on the screenplay of the nun-themed film Come to the Stable and became a Dame of Malta.[190][191]

Marshall McLuhan: Canadian philosopher of communication theory. Coined the terms the medium is the message and the global village. Converted in 1937 after reading the works of G.K. Chesterton.

Thomas Merton: American Trappist monk and spiritual writer.[202]

Richard John Neuhaus: Priest, founder and editor of the journal First Things.[218]

John Henry Newman: English Priest and Cardinal, famous for his autobiographical book Apologia Pro Vita Sua in which he details his reasons for converting[219]

Keith Newton: Formerly an Anglican bishop.[31]

Donald Nicholl: A British historian and theologian who has been described as "one of the most widely influential of modern Christian thinkers."[220]

and many more next time

I love to see protestantism's brightest and best convert to the Roman Catholic Church while you celebrate 'winning over' our divorced huddled masses yearning to have it easy.

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam

110 posted on 06/26/2014 9:11:49 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
again you did not read my original post I said I knew four Evangelicals who were fallen away Catholics and who divorced and remarried and are now Evangelicals.

Of course i read your post, as that is why i said you knew just four Evangelicals converts from Rome.

Of every single protestant I know,

Now you are simply negating the distinction i have made from the beginning, that of evangelicals, and you said, "the vast majority of fallen away Catholics...are divorced and remarry," despite also including Prots.

Which term "Protestant is so wide that it is basically meaningless. I am defending a kind of faith which the term "evangelical" best fits overall, if in decline, not whatever falls under the term "Protestant." The facts remain that those who most strongly hold to Scripture literally being the assured word of God and supreme authority are far more conservative and unified in core beliefs than the overall fruit of Rome.

protestants are the ones who need damage control

Indeed they would if they were claiming to be conservative and the one true faith. But that is Rome's claim, and thus it is challenged and refuted.

you are the ones who celebrate when fallen away Catholics find a place at your 'Catholic lite - protestant easy' sects.

Which is another grasping, specious charge. "We" as a conservative evangelicals are a movement which historically were called fundamentalists, even by Rome, because they opposed such liberalism.

and my number is only four Evangelicals however slightly less than 50 total protestants...

Irrelevant. When i begin defending all that falls under the name "Protestant" - the definition of which is so wide you can drive a Unitarians Scientology Swedenborgian 747 thru it then your charge will be fitting.

You don;t need to believe my 'biased' polling just use your eyes and count the divorced protestants

Ditto. The fact remains however that Catholics do not have less divorced members than evangelicals, and Rome treats even prosodomite proabortion pols as members in life and in death.

As I said several times protestants get our dregs and Catholics get your best:

Rather, the evidence shows evangelicals take your "dregs out of a liberal church and make then conservatives, while the best place to call home is Rome of liberal Prot churches, which tend to be the most like Rome.

Yet considering the status of men the Lord chose and souls as the Corinthians, the Jews had your attitude.

Tony Blair....

For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: (1 Corinthians 1:26)

134 posted on 06/27/2014 5:13:58 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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