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To: caww

caww, you bring up some interesting points, however what about the Kurd’s role in the Armenian Genocide? While I agree that it is good that they are out from Sunni/Shia control, I do not see these people as a shining example of integrity. What are your thoughts?


37 posted on 06/22/2014 2:56:28 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Well I do think when you look at the Middle East nations, and for that matter in many of the conflicts worldwide, Muslim Islamists are more times then not instigators in one way or another....I believe this was also in the Armenia Genocide where Islamic Kurds seemed to have spearheaded the event...or at least highly influenced it.

As we've seen in Egypt, Syria, and now Iraq. The “wild man” always goes to where ever there is conflict, will change sides on a whim, and often fed heavy drugs to carry out the atrocities we read of.

I mention this because it is always difficult to determine if or not the actual opposing sides are doing the damage, rather that these “wild men” can often do so to incite further war. They are after all paid to fight...that is what they do as their vocation.

When looking at Ukraine it is not simply Ukraine's Army and the Citizens fighting....you also have the Oligarchs with their own personal armies fighting....also the hired militias which Ukraine is using, Russia is using, and the Nazi element is using. It's all a hodge podge of elements.

The Middle East conflicts are never clear, rather intensely varied.....but at the heart is always the lust for power and wealth regardless of the motive used to justify, and the tribes who continue to fight as they have throughout history. Religion is used ‘to motivate the masses’ when it's advantageous to do so.

I still tend to find the Kurds really just want to have their own country, and do not see themselves as Arabs or tied to any one religion. They will always fight from whatever standpoint would lead them to their goal of an independent nation. What is interesting, as the Iraq War heats up...is the refuges who head toward Kurdish areas.....those who are weary of war and want peace seem to understand the Kurdish people will accept them. They recognize the Kurds as basically peaceful seeking for all. Unlike the Islamists who see peace ONLY through Islam ad until all nations are under Islamic rule there can be no peace.

46 posted on 06/23/2014 10:01:05 AM PDT by caww
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