An Open Letter To Pope Francis

Christian Order ^ | September 23, 2013 | Lucrecia Rego de Planas

[Legatus]

I’m not sure I get why Trads would get banned simply because of their beliefs.

I don't think it's because of trad religious beliefs but that trads don't line up politically and when pressed will get all monarchist in front of everyone.

[piusv]

trads don't line up politically and when pressed will get all monarchist in front of everyone

I see.

[JPX2011]

I don't think it's because of trad religious beliefs but that trads don't line up politically and when pressed will get all monarchist in front of everyone.

I can attest to that. Just yesterday there was an attempt to bait me as a monarchist.

[piusv]

But it doesn’t look like that was done by a post-Vatican II/Novus Ordo Catholic.

[JPX2011]

But it doesn’t look like that was done by a post-Vatican II/Novus Ordo Catholic.

No it wasn't. It was certainly protestant in origin. But I wouldn't put it past a NO type to try it. Amongst some of them there is a deviousness. I've seen it in my own diocese.

[Legatus]

I’d say most people know it’s a trad “weak point” by now, at least those who have been paying attention for the last 10 or so years.

For instance if I were to say “I love my country but I do not care for its government anymore.” That puts a person in danger among the “Constitution is divinely inspired” people.

[ebb tide]

You could say so. I'm also critical of Obama, Kasper and Dolan; I'm not prejudiced.

[piusv]

I don’t care for the government, but that has nothing to do with my trad-ness. I was suspicious of our government when I was a Novus Ordite too.

[piusv]

You’ll also notice that I rarely get into the political threads. I only post in the RF.

[ebb tide]

As for Vatican II, I was myself thrown into some spiritual disarray from poor leaders/teachers who misinterpreted much of that...

And those "leaders/teachers" included priests, bishops, cardinals and even popes.

[piusv]

Anyway, sorry OP. Not sure how things got off-track here.

[ebb tide]

I’m a Roman Catholic and I have always believed the Bible, authored by the Holy Ghost, is inerrant. I believe in Creationism and that God created the world in six days.

Sounds like you just ran into a bunch of poorly educated neo-cats at your universty (was it Georgetown or Notre Dame, perhaps?).

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

The constitution is a tremendous and good document, but divinely inspired...No.

At least in my own experience the sola scriptura crowd, somewhat ironically, seems most likely to insist that the constitution is divinely inspired.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

I read that. A laughably weak, strange, and spiteful attempt by a person we all know who loves nothing better than to stir up trouble.

Yet at the same time, I see more and more people who are members of faith and fellowship assemblies masquerading as churches, saying that America is a "Protestant country," a "Protestant edifice," etc. One even stated that Catholics should be eternally grateful to ALL Protestants because the denizens of "Protestant America" so magnanimously "allowed" Catholics to live here! I guess that poster is looking for a reparation check or something.

Ironically, these claims that America was, and should be again, a Protestant theocracy that graciously allows Catholics to reside within it seem to be in violation of the rules in the exact same manner that monarchy-advocacy would be.

[JPX2011]

Yet at the same time, I see more and more people who are members of faith and fellowship assemblies masquerading as churches, saying that America is a "Protestant country," a "Protestant edifice," etc. One even stated that Catholics should be eternally grateful to ALL Protestants because the denizens of "Protestant America" so magnanimously "allowed" Catholics to live here! I guess that poster is looking for a reparation check or something.

This ties into a question I've had for awhile now. Is there some tie-in between this particular protestant mindset and this Americana fixation held by Mormons, most specifically Glenn Beck? Is that something inherent in those confessions?

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

There certainly seems to be.

[SumProVita]

No popes were included.

[Alex Murphy]

My now retired bishop called me by name an "enemy of the diocese."...Let it go.

You might consider taking your own advice.

[SumProVita]

Pray for your parish and get involved. You will be amazed at what God will do. It really builds one’s faith and promotes growth in holiness. ;-)

[Alex Murphy]

Does the Holy Spirit pick the pope? Ratzinger didn’t think so. - See more at: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2013/02/does-the-holy-spirit-pick-the-pope-ratzinger-didnt-think-so/#sthash.DLDcLQeH.dpuf

I read through both Kendra's blog and the longer piece he quotes from at WaPo, and I found nothing regarding your comment. I found a whole lot of material on Vatican politics and corruption, however. Can you point me to the relevant excerpt re how popes are chosen?