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Ravenwolf, it might be a good idea to re-read what GOP said, in the light of an honest review of the human heart. There is hardly a man on earth --- at least one past puberty, and hormonally normal --- who has not felt the unbidden tug of attraction to some female not his wife. The fact that men notice women--- that the eye darts to the curves almost on its own --- is the reason why the put women's curves in beer ads, travel brochures and TV commercials.

The "unbidden tug," the unwilled attraction, the abrupt appetite, is partly a gift of God (it helps us get interested in marriage) and too often something nagging and inordinate, which disturbs our serenity and tempts us to sin.

Jesus was tempted. He was tempted in every way we are, but without sinning.

(That's the difference between Him and us.)

So don't be jumping all over GOP for just noting that he feels the attraction. It is not the same as saying he plays a continuous porno video loop in his brain and willfully cooperates in getting off on lustful fantasy.

He's saying he's a male that ain't dead yet.

Get a grip. Temptation is not the same as sin.

Ravenwolf, it might be a good idea to re-read what GOP said, in the light of an honest review of the human heart.

I think maybe you should think about what you seem to think I said.

I was not jumping all over him or no one else, I believe the article on the thread was referring to the lesbian as being a member of the Catholic Church and that is what I was talking about.

I rewrote GOP and explained that I was talking about the Membership of the Church, I believe the Church leaders should go back and read the acts of the apostles and consider what serious business it was to become a member of the Church.

If they had any love for the church at all maybe some of them would resign.

And if you read my comment again you can see that I do not consider myself fit to be a member of the Church as set up in acts.

The “unbidden tug,” the unwilled attraction, the abrupt appetite, is partly a gift of God (it helps us get interested in marriage) and too often something nagging and inordinate, which disturbs our serenity and tempts us to sin.>>>>>>

I have lived with that for most of my 78 years so I am not exactly a student.

So don’t be jumping all over GOP for just noting that he feels the attraction. It is not the same as saying he plays a continuous porno video loop in his brain and willfully cooperates in getting off on lustful fantasy.>>>>>>>

That never even entered my mind, must be assumption.