Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: hosepipe; TXnMA; MHGinTN; betty boop
Dear hosepipe, you've spoken several times about the donkey/rider metaphor - that the body is the donkey and the person is the rider. You've also mentioned the stark difference between the person looking into the mirror and the physical body looking back at him.

With those concepts in mind I'd like to revisit MHGinTN's mention of being born again as a kind of "phase shift."

Indeed, one of my favorite geometric physicists, P.S. Wesson, posits that physical death itself may be a phase change:

We review the idea, due to Einstein, Eddington, Hoyle and Ballard, that time is a subjective label, whose primary purpose is to order events, perhaps in a higher-dimensional universe. In this approach, all moments in time exist simultaneously, but they are ordered to create the illusion of an unfolding experience by some physical mechanism. This, in the language of relativity, may be connected to a hypersurface in a world that extends beyond spacetime. Death in such a scenario may be merely a phase change.

Time as an Illusion

Being 'born again' is very much like that, like dying while yet alive or being alive but in a different phase to this world. Things are just things, our perspective changes, and we are different to observers still "in" phase with the physical world. We're here but not here.

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Colossians 3:3

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

Just as Jesus promised:

Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. - John 3:7-8

We are truly His because of that rebirth:

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. - Romans 8:9

God's Name is I AM.

148 posted on 06/20/2014 9:19:22 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 146 | View Replies ]


To: Alamo-Girl; TXnMA; MHGinTN; betty boop
With those concepts in mind I'd like to revisit MHGinTN’s mention of being born again as a kind of “phase shift.”

I dig “phase shifts”... but it's a bit too high flautin for me..

Easier for me to envision a Space Suit for the the spirit..
so the spirit can function in three dimensions..
but Donkey/Rider also works..

Wish I could display my vision(s) that I had(on that).. BUT
many don't even believe in “visions”.. like me; I didn't either until I had one....lol. (actually several)..

Be hard for someone to convince me there is no such thing as “the spirit”... I was “there”..

Basically these convos are just entertainment to me...
But If had the freedom to do it.. it might blow a few minds the way things really are.. (that I SAW)..

I asked the Holy Spirit after them(visions) what was THAT all about..
Should I go go tell somebody about what I saw.. and Why? ME?..
The HS said you have been praying for this info for at least 40 years.. and you ask why?.. we both laughed(at least I did)..

“His” response was quite humorous.. “Go tell them or not.. because “they” will not believe you anyway”..

I like that “guy” the Holy Spirit.. so practical and even funny..
Because what I saw was quite different than anything I imagined in my wildest “perceptions”..

So different I cannot reveal them even to you.. my precious friend..

153 posted on 06/20/2014 10:23:33 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson