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To: piusv
This jaw-dropping statement from the link:

There does not seem to be a compelling reason to depart from the literal and obvious sense of the following Scriptures which teach, both implicitly and explicitly, that the earth does not move.

The writer apparently pays no heed to St. Augustine's warning about undermining the Faith by making ridiculous claims.

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"Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he hold to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion. [1 Timothy 1.7]"

http://www.pibburns.com/augustin.htm

"Desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither the things they say, nor whereof they affirm." [1 Timothy 1.7]

57 posted on 06/14/2014 10:44:02 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Which link is your first quote from in post #57?


58 posted on 06/15/2014 4:02:38 AM PDT by piusv
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To: BlatherNaut; Zionist Conspirator

Nevermind. I see now that John Salza is a geo-centrist.

It’s interesting that Geocentrism is not brought up in these discussions. I would like to hear what ZC has to say about that. Personally, I don’t see the apparent contradiction between the Bible and heliocentrism the same as the issue with evolution.


59 posted on 06/15/2014 5:07:02 AM PDT by piusv
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