500 Years of Chaos: Protestantism’s Anniversary

Catholic Analysis ^ | 7 June 2014 | Philipp Rogall

[Lx]

I had a innocuous comment removed and I can only surmise that one of these God fearing Catholics snitched on me, the irony goes over their heads.

That or it was the Spanish inquisition!

[Lx]

So, you engage in debates but when someone disagrees with you, you snitch them off. Nice.

[gusopol3]

If they wanted to make it “Catholic Caucus”that would have been one thing, but it’s clear it was meant to be provocative.

[Religion Moderator]

The post was pulled because it quoted a portion of a pulled post which contains potty language.

ALL posts on the Religion Forum that contain potty language are removed as soon as we see them.

[Bryan24]

Don't post an article as biased and inflammatory as this expect no blowback. Especially when you make a statement as you did. Why go whining to the Religion Moderator?

You said Catholics don't worship Mary. You pray to her and ask for her to intercede. I copied the Hail Mary for you.

From Merriam Webster:

Worship:

- reverence offered a divine being or supernatural power; also : an act of expressing such reverence

- a form of religious practice with its creed and ritual

- extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem

Catholics worship Mary. You are wrong.

[Religion Moderator]

On the Religion Forum, the main guideline is to discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal. Discuss the message, not the messenger.

The reason is that flame wars ignite easily when the subject matter is deeply held religious belief.

If you said "Catholics worship Mary" that would NOT be "making it personal." However, if you say "You worship Mary" that would be "making it personal."

[Bryan24]

I didn’t snitch anyone. I don’t even know how to do that. Apparently the other guy did.

[Bryan24]

I’ll get off this thread. Was planning to anyway.

[gusopol3]

I know it’s fast and furious here, but two of my posts have been pulled for using the “t” word in reference to the original poster. in neither post did I quote “potty language.”

[matthewrobertolson]

Pope Alexander VI, around before Martin Luther, planned a Bull of Reforms very similar to the ones passed at Trent. Unfortunately, most of these plans were delayed by his death, the untimely death of Pius III, the wars that Julius II had to fight, and the reign of the Medicis.

Reform was well on the way, but you'll never glean that from a Protestant source.

[Faith Presses On]

I came to know the Lord as my Savior outside of any church, and ever since then I’ve looked at all of them without any prejudice. And what I’ve come to see is that the Lord Himself brought about other denominations at the proper times in order to preserve the actual, invisible church, because in many ways man’s will, not His, was being done.

[LadyDoc]

Worship in Catholicism is the mass. Praying to someone is asking them to pray for you to God. The word pray means ask, as in pray tell me sir.

The one billion Catholics and one half billion Orthodox Christians know the difference.

[Religion Moderator]

Calling another Freeper a troll is a form of "making it personal" - it attributes motive.

Discuss the message, not the messenger.

[Salvation]

Are you aware that most of the Hail Mary is from the Bible?

Hail Mary, full of grace, — Gabriel’s greeting to Mary at the Annuciation

The Lord is with thee — At the Visitation, Elizabeth greets Mary by saying, “How is this that the Mother of my Lord has come to see me?”

Elizabeth then continues “Blessed are thou among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb.” The word Jesus was added later.

Holy Mary, — just a greeting,
Mother of God — back to Elizabeth and “the Mother of my Lord.”
here is the request “Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Please read Luke to verify.

[ealgeone]

We only have the Bible as being inspired by the Holy Spirit.

[xzins]

or the Protestant Rebellion, as some prefer to call it. Indeed, the latter term would suit me better, too.

This would be a better article if it acknowledged that there were abuses at the time that led to the reformation. Without that, it's hard to take this seriously.

It's also hard to take seriously someone's heartburn with German Catholische joining with German Evangelische and commemorating the event. That event pretty well defined the history of most German states for hundreds of years. First, it means this author don't have a clue about today's Germany, and second it means they're among those few from both sides who still prefer this to be a matter for armies on battlefields rather than Christians in serious reflection with one another.

[gusopol3]

What we will glean from Protestant or secular sources is that the entire history of the world, from the Old Testament through the Classics through Shakespeare, was that the struggle for power ravaged the lives of the citizens of every country on the planet as far as we know. That was CHAOS and it was PRE Reformation ( thanks for supplying the evidence in your very own post Julius II, Medicis, etc) Then came along a little Protestant country founded on the Protestant principles of John Locke among others and all but eliminated that chaos. You knew that when you posted what I consider to be a tr-—ish screed, nothing personal intended, believe me, as I have been admonished by the Religion Moderator with a heavy hand.

[Lx]

And the Catechism?

[RFEngineer]

At least you are honest about the fact that reforms were needed. You can continue to assign ill will to Protestants as you wish. We exist because Rome failed to be the honest steward of Christianity. You needed our help to nudge you in the right direction. We are glad (mostly) you cleaned up your act more or less.

Earthly institutions are all flawed when run by men.

[Admin Moderator]

No one “snitched.” I noticed the potty language and removed the original post and the post which quoted it.