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To: dsc
“The responses from Catholics in attempting to defend this are very interesting. They deny what is clearly written in their own catechism.” The current edition of the CCC was heavily influenced by the enemies of the Church of whom Pope Saint Pius X wrote. This is what happens when mortal man substitutes his judgment for God’s. It does not, however, impeach Catholicism as a whole.

Wow....you just proved the whole point made by non-catholics that a large part of Catholicism is man-made and therefore subject to error.

Don’t forget that the first war on Islamic terrorism, also known as the First Crusade, was called by a Catholic pope, Urban II. Catholicism has always known that Allah and Mohammedism are inventions of Satan, and as soon as the attack on the Church that began in the 20th century is beaten back, this error in the CCC will be corrected.

Wow....you're the second person to admit there is error in the catechism! You've also just proved what non-catholics have said about Catholicism...that a lot of it is man-made and made up and therefore subject to error.

btw...urban II promised a false salvation for those who fought in the crusades when he promised that those who fought and died in the battle would be forgiven of their sins and would go to Heaven. nothing in the Bible to support that....just more man-made false teaching by the catholic church.

223 posted on 06/08/2014 5:52:47 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: ealgeone

This contradiction that you are describing is part of the reason why sedevacantists believe that the popes who promulgated Vatican II (and those who continue to enforce it) were (are) not true popes. Having said that I probably won’t be able to get into a full discussion/explanation of it because I am not very good at it.

This is a good place to get the basics though (for anyone interested, especially those Catholics who are really starting to question WTH is going in the Catholic Church):

http://www.cmri.org/why-we-believe-the-chair-of-peter-is-vacant.shtml


224 posted on 06/08/2014 6:02:26 AM PDT by piusv
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To: ealgeone

“Wow....you just proved the whole point made by non-catholics that a large part of Catholicism is man-made and therefore subject to error.”

Jeez, try to think. God gave us reason because He wants us to use it.

I *asserted* that a part of Catholicism that is neither a part of Revelation nor of Tradition, which is to say, a part that is *known* and *admitted* to have been written by men, is mistaken. Further, in comparison to the vast sweep of Catholic theology, Revelation, and Tradition, it is not a “large” part, but rather a secondary and comparatively minor part.

If you want to criticize something, you really should learn something about it, first.

For some people, but of course no one who posts on Free Republic, theological leftism is not an intellectual exercise, but just a matter of hatred and prejudice. No Free Republic poster would ever sink so low, I hasten to add, so I must not be talking about anyone here.

“Wow....you’re the second person to admit there is error in the catechism!”

No, there were millions ahead of me. By the way, each mortal soul is allowed only five exclamation points in a lifetime. All the excess punctuation must be worked off in Purgatory before one can enter Heaven.

“You’ve also just proved what non-Catholics have said about Catholicism...that a lot of it is man-made and made up and therefore subject to error.”

You take my assertions as proof? My goodness, such power.

In Catholicism, we have things called disciplines, and other things called devotions, and just a wealth of things that give us comfort and aid in our salvation and our search for holiness. We recognize the difference between that and the parts where God done spoke upon it. You don’t.

The Catholic Church allows but does not require a great deal. It is a wonderful freedom.

For Protestants, that which is not forbidden is mandatory, and vice versa.

“Urban II promised a false salvation for those who fought in the crusades when he promised that those who fought and died in the battle would be forgiven of their sins and would go to Heaven.”

That is an urban legend (what a natural pun).

http://www.strangenotions.com/the-crusdades-urban-legends-and-truth/

“just more man-made false teaching by the catholic church.”

How sad that some people are too brainwashed even to consider the matter calmly and rationally.


232 posted on 06/08/2014 10:12:24 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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