If you’re Baptist, and the head of the Southern Baptist Convention comes out and announces he’s gay, are you going to stop being baptist? Of course not.
If I try finding a church that doesn’t have any stupid sinners in it I’d be in trouble. And so would you so try coming down off that high horse.
There’s a difference between a church with stupid sinners in it and a church who’s absolute unquestioned unchallenged leader is engaging in apostasy. And yes, if I were in a church that the head of came out as gay, and he was not asked to step down, I would leave the church.
I promise you he wouldn't be the head of the SBC very long if that scenario unfolded.
Matthew 18:6-7 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. (7) Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!And so, whether the SBC leadership is one day guilty of fostering sexual perversion, or the Papacy is used to give aid and comfort to the satanic hordes of Islam, or whether individual posters here on FR find their own uniques ways to lead precious souls astray from the simplicity of the Gospel of Grace in Christ Jesus, we will all be held accountable, according to our own degree of responsibility:
Luke 12:47-48 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. (48) But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.It is an extraordinary hubris to claim to be the sole Vicar of Christ, when in reality all we who believe are His earthly representatives:
1Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:There is no warrant in Scripture for such a position in the body of Christ. Christ has His sole representative on earth in the Person of the Holy Spirit. A wise man would thus avoid the claim to such a title, as the price of failure would be incalculable personal loss:
Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.As for the church, yes, it will survive, though all the trappings of man come down around our ears. No institution is safe in these evil days. Not one. But every heart that trusts Christ is nestled safely in His hands, from which no one can pluck him. But what of the church? Surely that one institution is guaranteed by Jesus Himself to endure to the end. But Jesus never promised the survival of any institution defined by lists of names on an earthly membership roll. Only the survival of His church, His "ecclesia," His "called out ones," i.e., those who gather in His name:
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.And in the end, the only membership roll that amount to anything is this one:
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.Peace,
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)
"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," (2 Corinthians 6:17)
Actually, you leave such a church for another pasture, or the church leaves the denom that supports this, or treats prosodomite abortionists as members in life and in death. As Rome does, showing her faith by her works, but where can a RC except to sects or schism?
I was brought up in a SBC church. The church I attended in my youth would likely withdrawal from the SBC. The Missionary Baptist I am an inactive member of certainly would as preacher or deacon etc. to step down. If the Pastor came out gay he would likely be invited to step down following a Deacons meeting held after such a declaration.
If I try finding a church that doesnt have any stupid sinners in it Id be in trouble.
There is a difference between sin and being blatant in opposition to the Word Of GOD. So much so that they ask the church to except and even participate in a pagan religion and worship with such or accept serious acts such as is homosexual marriages or abortions. Worshiping any god but the GOD of Abraham, Isaac, is an abomination as is such sin as acting on homosexuality including gay marriage.
If any church official be it deacon, preacher, Sunday school teacher, priest, or Pope, accepts the normalization of such actions inside the church or elsewhere and teaches others to do the same they are leading people on a path of destruction. The behavior expected of leaders in a church is spelled out clearly by Paul in Timothy.