OK, all of those things are mentioned in the teaching... how does that prove one way or the other that the rich man wont be there for eternity?
RE: The parable is not about how long he will be there. Its not brought up.
OK, so we both agree that this teaching ( I still won’t use the word parable ) CANNOT be use to support any idea of the DURATION of punishment.
However, can we agree that CONSCIOUS PUNISHMENT does exist in a SPECIFIC PLACE?