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To: narses
What part of "I really don't care what Luther said" did you not get? As I said before, I will go by what the Bible actually says instead of going by what you wish it said. Everything you have said up until now has been wishful thinking. But it is not backed by scripture.

The bigger question here is this: Why is it so important for you that Mary died a virgin?

138 posted on 05/31/2014 11:01:04 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem;
Creatorem caeli et terrae.

Et in Jesum Christum,
Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum;
qui conceptus est
de Spiritu Sancto,
natus ex Maria virgine;
passus sub Pontio Pilato,
crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus;
descendit ad inferos;
tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
ascendit ad caelos;
sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
inde venturus est
iudicare vivos et mortuos.

Credo in Spiritum Sanctum;
sanctam ecclesiam catholicam;
sanctorum communionem;
remissionem peccatorum;
carnis resurrectionem;
vitam aeternam. Amen.

In English:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ,
his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived
by the power of the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary,
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
he will come again
to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen


139 posted on 05/31/2014 11:01:45 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Hoodat
I will go by what the Bible actually says instead of going by what you wish it said.

What arrogance. Who said you had the authoritative interpretation of scripture?

Mary is your Blessed Mother. Her assent allowed you to be saved (hopefully). Show some respect.

Why is it so important that protestants think Mary was not a virgin? Could it be that holiness is a characteristic lacking in protestant theology. Mary as an example of faithfulness and holiness is too difficult an example to strive for? Total depravity demands it?

I just had a thought. Maybe protestantism is just like communism in that regard. It doesn't build up, it just tears down. Take from the rich and give to the poor. It would explain a great many things.

141 posted on 05/31/2014 11:10:37 PM PDT by JPX2011
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