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Brothers of Jesus: Biblical Arguments for Mary’s Virginity
Seton Magazine ^ | Dave Armstrong

Posted on 05/31/2014 4:33:21 PM PDT by narses

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To: JPX2011
Who said you had the authoritative interpretation of scripture?

Who said that all of Scripture needs interpretation?

Scripture is Scripture. It says what it says.

161 posted on 06/01/2014 6:00:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salvation

My parents are Saints and so am I, but they most definetly were married and acted as married people do. As am I.


162 posted on 06/01/2014 6:07:21 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Hootowl

I don’t agree. The Bible is clear on Jesus having siblings. They used different words to describe other relationships etc. It’s very clear. The reason it matters is because many people are praying to Mary in hopes she will intercede for them. That is dead smoking wrong and directly against biblical teachings. To say that won’t affect salvation is wrong because Jesus tells us how to be saved.


163 posted on 06/01/2014 6:13:03 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: D-fendr

That there friend is dead wrong. I don’t even know how you can come to that conclusion. Father of lies is doing a good job of deceiving people.


164 posted on 06/01/2014 6:16:31 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: JSDude1

Yes, she is our sister in Christ. This cult like adoration and putting her way up on a pedestal is scary. Jesus Christ is the reason I have salvation, his death for me took away all my sins. Nothing else needs to be done, it was the perfect sacrifice.


165 posted on 06/01/2014 6:20:37 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: ShadowAce

Scripture is Scripture. It says what it says

30 And Philip running thither, heard him reading the prophet Isaias. And he said: Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest?

31 Who said: And how can I, unless some man shew me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Acts 8:30

166 posted on 06/01/2014 6:21:30 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

Yes and she’s also queen of heaven. I’d laugh at the absurdity, except it’s not funny how many good people are being led astray.


167 posted on 06/01/2014 6:23:28 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf
Yes and she’s also queen of heaven. I’d laugh at the absurdity, except it’s not funny how many good people are being led astray.

Why laugh? Don't you believe Jesus honors His Mother?

168 posted on 06/01/2014 6:30:14 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: winodog

Great passage. Thanks.


169 posted on 06/01/2014 6:36:33 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Bulwyf
"The Bible is clear on Jesus having siblings. "


170 posted on 06/01/2014 6:38:09 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: bike800

Uh, dude? That’s Michal, King David’s daughter. He was ticked at her and so she had no children by him. We’re talking about Mary. Wow, dude.


171 posted on 06/01/2014 6:45:18 AM PDT by equalator
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To: bike800

Whoops, David’s wife, not daughter. It’s contagious


172 posted on 06/01/2014 6:46:39 AM PDT by equalator
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To: equalator

I am quite aware of the topic of conversation..i was merely responding to your quote. The use of the word “until” does not necessarily mean that something happened after that...hence my quote...


173 posted on 06/01/2014 7:05:21 AM PDT by bike800
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To: narses

It makes more sense to me than any thing else that Jesus was Mary.s only child and was the youngest.

Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon, and are not his sisters here with us?”

At that time Jesus must have been about 30 years old but they did not really know him, yet they seemed to be familiar enough with his brothers and sisters.

Every one knew James, (I am the brother of James ) the scriptures mentioned indicate that his brothers did not have the respect for him that would be seen if he had of been an older brother.

Any one from a big family knows that it would be highly unlikely that if Jesus had younger brothers some of them would be ready to follow him any where.

Yet there was none followed him.

This has been said so many times it is wore out just like the arguments against it, but if marry had other children they would have taken care of her rather than her being taken care of by the apostle John.


174 posted on 06/01/2014 7:12:42 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

who knows. maybe the brothers moved away or died. Joseph apparently had already passed away when Jesus was murdered.


175 posted on 06/01/2014 7:16:54 AM PDT by equalator
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To: equalator

who knows. maybe the brothers moved away or died. Joseph apparently had already passed away when Jesus was murdered.


You got that right, we don`t know and it likely would not make any difference if we did.


176 posted on 06/01/2014 7:29:17 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

things worked out the way they did


177 posted on 06/01/2014 7:43:03 AM PDT by equalator
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To: Cvengr

I am glad someone appreciated it. It seems real cut and dry to me and Les is a very good bible study teacher.


178 posted on 06/01/2014 7:43:23 AM PDT by winodog
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To: Salvation
Are you familiar with the concept of living separate yet holy lives under one roof.

No...It is against the will of God...

This is true of many parents of saints. And it was true of Mary and Joseph. They had no marital relations.

Complete anti-biblical fabrication...

179 posted on 06/01/2014 7:46:46 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mr. K
the whole world changes if Mary and Joseph had sex..

Or we're ignoring what the Bible says.

And behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call him Jesus. He shall be great, and men will know him for the Son of the most High; the Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he shall reign over the house of Jacob eternally; his kingdom shall never have an end. But Mary said to the angel, How can that be, since I have no knowledge of man?
Mary was told that, in the future, she would conceive and bear a son. Yet she asked, "how can that be...?"

Mary's statement only makes sense if she had taken a vow of perpetual virginity.

Additionally, the term, "overshadow," was a euphemism for the marital act, when the husband "casts his shadow" over his wife.

Song of Solomon Chapter 2

I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste. He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love. Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love. His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.

Luke 1:35

And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow thee: wherefore also the holy thing which is begotten shall be called the Son of God.


180 posted on 06/01/2014 7:51:28 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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