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Brothers of Jesus: Biblical Arguments for Mary’s Virginity
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| Dave Armstrong
Posted on 05/31/2014 4:33:21 PM PDT by narses
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To: Ransomed
You mean those churches with “priests” wearing robes and stuff?
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posted on
05/31/2014 7:48:41 PM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
To: DungeonMaster
Is Jesus not God in your view? Or was Mary not His mother?
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posted on
05/31/2014 7:49:43 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: Iscool; af_vet_1981
The vision in revelation is of the constellation Virgo, the virgin , when the sun is clothing her, and the moon is under her feet- with the stars as a crown..
It details the new moon day birth of the Messiah in the 6th month of our Heavenly Father’s calendar when the sun is ‘in Virgo’ ...
certainly not on December 25th either...and forget about the astrology mess.. it is astronomy..
Astronomy is throughout much of scripture if one studies the sun, moon and stars.. He did give them to us for signs, seasons, etc... they are not just dots up there...
To: Hoodat
Totally unrelated, but I have a friend whose first exposure to the Bible was reading the Song of Solomon. Obviously it worked, because today he is a very strong Christian. 16.Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
To: GreyFriar
My personal bottom line is that Marys perpetual virginity is not what I hang my faith in her Son and his message of salvation upon. Likewise, indeed. I have no need to elevate Mary.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:06:55 PM PDT
by
zot
To: af_vet_1981
We do know that Satan does attempt to thwart the Kingdom of God and insert little variances in the teaching of the Bible.
Been happening since Genesis 3.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:07:20 PM PDT
by
ealgeone
(obama, borderof)
To: Salvation
That doesnt mean that they had relations.If the didn't, then they weren't married. Their marriage covenant was a sham.
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Mary was a perpetual virgin.
What does that even mean anyway - perpetual virgin? And why is it so important for you to designate her as one?
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Even Luther said so.
I really don't care what Luther said. I'm more of a Jan Hus man anyway. Besides, I choose to go by what the Bible actually says, which of course was Hus' original deal in the first place.
All that matters to me is that Mary was a virgin when she first conceived, which is what the Bible says. After that, it really doesn't matter to me. Yet I refuse to reject what the Bible says in order to put some 'perpetual' label on her. She is most blessed among women, and Jesus was her first born. That is good enough for me.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:18:09 PM PDT
by
Hoodat
(Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
To: hecticskeptic
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:19:11 PM PDT
by
Hoodat
(Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
To: ealgeone
Been happening since Genesis 3.Yep. Right there in verse 2.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:21:06 PM PDT
by
Hoodat
(Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
To: narses
Hmmmm
.So the commandment that husbands and wives should never deny the other sex applies to everyone except for the mother and earthly father of Jesus? I dont think so. 1 Corinthians 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. Besides, Mary is called a wife and Joseph is called a husband
.you cant be a wife or husband without sex and in fact the marriage doesnt actually start until it has been consummated. Up to that point, it can only be stated that Joseph took Mary to be as his wife.
To: narses
No where is there any Gospel that suggests that Mary ever had sex. There's also no Gospel which suggests Mary was born without original sin or was assumed into heaven. There is, however, Scripture which points to Jesus as having early siblings.
To do otherwise would have meant Mary and Joseph would have disobeyed God's command in Genesis 1:28. As righteous servants of God, that would have been quite out of character for them.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:23:37 PM PDT
by
Colonel_Flagg
("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
To: Hoodat
Are you familiar with the concept of living separate yet holy lives under one roof.
This is true of many parents of saints. And it was true of Mary and Joseph. They had no marital relations.
She was a perpetual virgin.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:24:12 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Colonel_Flagg
having early siblings. Sheesh. Earthly.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:24:14 PM PDT
by
Colonel_Flagg
("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
To: DungeonMaster
Yeah, Christian, robes, big mitres, a lot of priests have giant beards, believe Mary was always a virgin. The Orthodox.
Freegards
To: Hoodat
continence
noun
1. self-restraint or abstinence, especially in regard to sexual activity; temperance; moderation.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:26:17 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Ransomed
I’m really not a big fan of those guys.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:28:42 PM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
To: D-fendr
Mother has different meanings. Does the Father have a mother? Is Jesus one with the Father?
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:30:38 PM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
To: Colonel_Flagg
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:32:09 PM PDT
by
narses
(Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
To: DungeonMaster
That’s what I’m saying, spread it around a little. I mean it’s not just RCC people who think Mary was always a virgin. Take the extra two seconds and include the Orthodox in the expressions of non-big fannery. Then it will pretty much be all covered, except for maybe some Anglicans and Lutherans.
Freegards
To: Ransomed
There are a billion Catholics from what I’ve read, I don’t think Greek Orthodox and the other Orthodox amount to many.
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posted on
05/31/2014 8:52:00 PM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
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