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To: ealgeone
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."


I think I can put it in proper perspective: Christians/Catholics belive in the trinity, Father-Creator, Son-Savior, Holy Spirit-Sanctifier. In as much as the Muslims believe in the Abrahamic God, the Father as Creator, they share that truth of our faith. Although,certainly not a fullness of truth as neither was Abrahams faith a fullness of all truth.

However, they dont believe in Jesus as Savior, or Holy Spirit as Sanctifier. So there is some there and alot missing.

I would guess that typical Protestant teaching/thinking isn't this deep or involved. Although Evangelicals have a habit of borrowing from Catholics thought, thinking, philosophy, natural law and the such.
20 posted on 05/31/2014 11:45:58 AM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: RBStealth
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." I think I can put it in proper perspective: Christians/Catholics belive in the trinity, Father-Creator, Son-Savior, Holy Spirit-Sanctifier. In as much as the Muslims believe in the Abrahamic God, the Father as Creator, they share that truth of our faith. Although,certainly not a fullness of truth as neither was Abrahams faith a fullness of all truth.

That's a new revelation to me that Allah and Jehovah are viewed the same by catholics.

I would disagree with this misunderstanding by Catholicism on the part of the God of the Bible and the god of Islam.

The Holy Bible teaches that God cannot be tempted by evil and neither tempts anyone with evil; evil being understood as referring to immorality and sin. James 1:13 (c.f. Psalm 5:4-5; Habakkuk 1:13)

Yet, the Quran teaches that Allah is the author of evil:

Verily, the hypocrites seek to deceive Allah, but it is He Who deceives them. And when they stand up for As-Salat (the prayer), they stand with laziness and to be seen of men, and they do not remember Allah but little. S. 4:142 Hilali-Khan

Not sure how this can be reconciled.

23 posted on 05/31/2014 11:54:13 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: RBStealth

Well said


25 posted on 05/31/2014 11:56:34 AM PDT by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: RBStealth

“I would guess that typical Protestant teaching/thinking isn’t this deep or involved.”

I found your post’s summation refreshingly simple: “So there is some there and a lot missing.”

Since stumbling at ONE POINT of the Law means you’ve broken the whole, the “lot missing” is fatal. Jesus is the Way, and every other way is not.


35 posted on 05/31/2014 12:07:16 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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