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To: jimmyray

Your idea of multiple judgments & multiple destinies/multiple places of ‘flame’ & ‘torment’ is inconsistent with Scripture. From Hebrews 9:27:

“And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,”

& btw, the real people depicted in judgment, in Matt. 25, don’t act like it is a superfluous non-event. They act like it is the first/only judgment they have faced. The righteous are surprised to be informed that every time they ministered to the poor and/or lonely, hurting, etc., they ministered to Jesus Himself. Likewise the damned are surprised to be judged for not ministering to Jesus when they neglected the poor, the imprisoned, etc. This is not a pointless repetition for either group; it is THE Judgnent.

Which it certainly wouldn’t be if they had been judged prior. I.e.: if some had previously been judged worthy to occupy a place of comfort, & to enjoy Abraham’s embrace, & were marched in from that place to stand judgment (again), while others had been judged worthy to occupy a place of flame & torment, & had been routed from there only to face a second damning judgment, there would be no surprises. Every person present would already have been judged once, & the second time would be redundant.

Of course most importantly the Bible gives no indication of multiple judgments or multiple destinies. According to Scripture, we each live once, die once, and then face judgment. Following judgment some enjoy eternal life with God and some receive eternal punishment. The idea that the damned are judged & punished one way prior to The Judgment, and then re-judged & punished a second way following The Day of Judgment, is non-Biblical.


104 posted on 05/31/2014 7:57:42 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
QUOTE: Your idea of multiple judgments & multiple destinies/multiple places of ‘flame’ & ‘torment’ is inconsistent with Scripture.

I did not intend to suggest their are multiple judgments per se. But a person is not judged immediately at death, they go to Hades, sheol, the grave. Whether they are conscious or not, whether they go to heaven or not, is a different debate.

We both agree their is a final, single, solitary judgement for the disposition of men's souls (Rev 20:11-14, Hebrews 9:27), yes?

114 posted on 05/31/2014 8:53:34 AM PDT by jimmyray
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