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To: NKP_Vet; Apple Pan Dowdy
"I can not fathom the thought of not agreeing with the Pope in matters of faith and morals."

Does your statement hold true for all Popes or just the current one?

It doesn't hold true for what came out of Vatican II, presided over by TWO popes. It was the twenty-first ecumenical council of the Catholic Church and the second to be held at Saint Peter's Basilica in the Vatican. The council, through the Holy See, formally opened under the pontificate of Pope John XXIII on 11 October 1962 and closed under Pope Paul VI on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception in 1965. ...Of those who took part in the council's opening session, four have become pontiffs to date: Cardinal Giovanni Battista Montini, who on succeeding Pope John XXIII took the name of Paul VI; Bishop Albino Luciani, the future Pope John Paul I; Bishop Karol Wojtyła, who became Pope John Paul II; and Father Joseph Ratzinger, present as a theological consultant, who became Pope Benedict XVI.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vatican_Council

How about it, NKP_vet, are you supposed to say Vatican II was wrong or that the Catechism is just based on someone's opinion? Can you "fathom" that thought and still be a good, faithful Catholic?

371 posted on 05/30/2014 12:15:12 AM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums

No salvation outside the Catholic Church for those that willingly spit in the face of the church. For those that know the Catholic Church, but still reject it. Those teachings have never changed. That describes 99% of the Catholic-bashers on this board. In otherwords ignorance is no excuse.


403 posted on 05/30/2014 7:59:20 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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