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To: ShadowAce

You mean the James that says faith without works is dead?
Or is there another James??????????????????????


303 posted on 05/29/2014 11:25:21 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus")
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To: NKP_Vet

That is Chapter 2. I was thinking more along the lines of Chapter 4


310 posted on 05/29/2014 11:34:24 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: NKP_Vet
Or is there another James?????

Yes, the Lords brother, leader of the Jerusalem church.

313 posted on 05/29/2014 11:51:27 AM PDT by bkaycee (John 3:16)
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To: NKP_Vet; ShadowAce
You mean the James that says faith without works is dead? Or is there another James?????????????????????

Indeed, just as evangelicals evidence more of in relation to their size, and as Reformers taught:

“This is why St. Luke and St. James have so much to say about works, so that one says: Yes, I will now believe, and then he goes and fabricates for himself a fictitious delusion, which hovers only on the lips as the foam on the water. No, no; faith is a living and an essential thing, which makes a new creature of man, changes his spirit and wholly and completely converts him. It goes to the foundation and there accomplishes a renewal of the entire man; so, if I have previously seen a sinner, I now see in his changed conduct, manner and life, that he believes. So high and great a thing is faith.”[Sermons of Martin Luther 2.2:341]

...it is just as impossible to separate faith and works as it is to separate heat and light from fire! [http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/luther-faith.txt]

This is what I have often said, if faith be true, it will break forth and bear fruit. If the tree is green and good, it will not cease to blossom forth in leaves and fruit. It does this by nature. I need not first command it and say: Look here, tree, bear apples. For if the tree is there and is good, the fruit will follow unbidden. If faith is present works must follow.” [Sermons of Martin Luther 2.2:340-341]

“We must therefore most certainly maintain that where there is no faith there also can be no good works; and conversely, that there is no faith where there are no good works. Therefore faith and good works should be so closely joined together that the essence of the entire Christian life consists in both.” [Martin Luther, as cited by Paul Althaus, The Theology of Martin Luther [Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1963], 246, footnote 99]

To which the old Presbyterian commentator Mathew Henry concurs: "There are many who in word and tongue profess to know God, and yet in their lives and conversations deny and reject him; their practice is a contradiction to their profession." [Matthew Henry Complete Commentary on the Whole Bible, Titus 1]

And consistent with this, James also teaches that what one does and effect is what evidences what one really believes. And thus Rome evidences what she really believes by treating even prosodomite murderers and her liberal majority as members in life and in death, regardless of what she professes. Its your church and you own them.

364 posted on 05/29/2014 6:40:57 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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