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To: Kackikat
My whole point was that there are places of faith where you will not lose your Salvation, but that does NOT negate the one place where you could? Obviously you aren’t Spirit filled and operating in the Nine Gifts of the Spirit or you would understand what I meant. Hebrews Ch Six Vs One refers to Christian maturity and leaving elementary understanding, before he explains where the one place you could lose Salvation rests.

First, I don't go to priests for the forgiveness of my sins. I go straight to Christ.

Next....if you think you can lose your salvation....then how do you know you have lost it? What sin(s) do you commit to lose it?

If you have lost it, and based on the reading of the section in Hebrews we're discussing, then it suggests you can't get it back....ever.....do you believe that?

The premise you suggest undermines the whole reason Christ died on the Cross as a one time final offering for ALL of our sins...past, present and future.

59 posted on 05/27/2014 8:40:22 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: ealgeone

You must understand who that Scripture is talking to...ACTS Chapter One, when Jesus said the Comforter would come and the Spirit would fill them so they could take the message to the world, and it will exist until he returns again and that hasn’t happened yet.

The Hebrews Chapter Six is for a specific type of Christian in ministry involved in the NINE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT , clearly explained in I Corinthians ALL of Chapter 12.

If you read slowly Hebrews Chapter Six starting verses 1-7 you will understand “WHO” that chapter is for and it is specific, it isn’t for everyone...that was my point. Along with the fact that there is a category where one can lose their Salvation, so there is not a blanket ‘once saved always saved Salvation for all’....but you must understand WHO HE IS TALKING TO....

Yes, those who have experienced all the gifts God can give them here on earth and operate accordingly, I Corinthians all of Chapter 12 for a clearer picture. No the gifts were never done away with, and there are millions who are Spirit filled today.

Saul of Taursus became Paul, who was not filled with the Spirit until Jesus had already ascended into Heaven and he appeared to him in the Spirit on the road to Damascus, so Pauls statement of when those things will be done away with has yet to come, when Jesus returns.

RESEARCH the 3000 at Notre Dame who were infilled like the Book of Acts about 40-50 years ago publicly in an Assembly at the college, that movement started another world wide revival that lasted until about ten years ago. Christian persecution by Islam and others escalated and then th ‘Great FallingAaway was becoming evident with all that we discuss here developing with abortion, gay rights, public school attacks on religions...lots of those churches that had been filled were beginning to lose converts. There were previous large visitations of the Holy Spirit like in ACTS here in USA and other nations which began huge mass conversions and revivals throughout history.


71 posted on 05/27/2014 9:21:05 AM PDT by Kackikat
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