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To: NKP_Vet

Hey, Vet, I never said anything about saltine crackers and grape juice. That has been your line, whether responding to me or to others on this thread that you don’t like. That is a leftist ploy...put words never spoken in the mouth of your opponent because it suits your cause.

Your whole ‘message’ is to support the man-made priesthood in the catholic church by ‘ordaining a job’ that ‘can’t be done by the ‘laity’.

I know ‘transubstantiation’, and understand it better than what you probably do. The Lord Jesus himself makes it His body and blood when we partake of it. A priest, or even the pope is powerless to change anything or to make the bread and the wine His body and His blood. Jesus Himself ‘consecrates’ it by the very act of our responding to His charge to ‘do this often in remembrance of Me’.

Jesus Christ Himself is my High Priest forever, according to the order of Melchisedech. And in Rev 1 it says He has made us kings and priests to God and His Father. I accept that, and the power through Him to act as priest in His presence and in the presence of God the Father. No man made church hierarchy can take that away from me.

Melchisedech himself, with Abram, ‘instituted’ the importance of the bread and the wine...See Gen 14:18, ‘And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand.’


209 posted on 05/28/2014 11:30:33 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“The Lord Jesus himself makes it His body and blood when we partake of it”.

Not without an ordained priest to consecrate the Host. Protestants have no idea what is going on at the Holy Eucharist. They don’t even call it that. Other than Lutherans and Anglicans, the other protestant faiths could care less what Jesus said to His diciples. Because they ignore his words. Just more of the “I don’t believe in the Real Presence, I don’t believe the bread and wine is turned into the Lord”. So for you to come along and say Jesus always makes the bread and wine his body when anyone is celebrating it is ridiculus. What you’re saying is if a baptist church brings out a box of saltine crackers and some ripple wine that it is AUTOMATICALLY the blood and body of Jesus. The celebration of the Eucharist is the greatest of all sacraments, and it takes a special, ordained, apostolic priest to conduct this mystery of salvation. Clyde the barber who preaches down at the local baptist church does not qualify.


210 posted on 05/28/2014 3:04:53 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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