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To: PhilipFreneau

“That is not the definition I am familiar with, nor is it the definition sasportas supplied in an earlier post. This is it:

“Wikipedia:”

Ok, from your preferred source, wikipedia, here is the same basic information included in their entry:

“Partial preterism

Partial preterism holds that most eschatological prophecies, such as the destruction of Jerusalem, the Antichrists, the Great Tribulation, and the advent of the Day of the Lord as a “judgment-coming” of Christ, were fulfilled either in AD 70[30] or during the persecution of Christians under the Emperor Nero.[31][32] Some partial preterists identify “ Babylon the Great” (Revelation 17–18) with the pagan Roman Empire, though some, such as N.T. Wright and David Chilton, identify it with the city of Jerusalem.[30][33] Most interpretations identify Nero as the Beast,[34][35][36][37][38][39][40][a] while his mark is often interpreted as the stamped image of the emperor’s head on every coin of the Roman Empire: the stamp on the hand or in the mind of all, without which no one could buy or sell.[41] However, others believe the Book of Revelation was written after Nero committed suicide in AD 68, and identify the Beast with another emperor. The Catholic Encyclopedia has noted that Revelation was “written during the latter part of the reign of the Roman Emperor Domitian, probably in AD 95 or 96”.[42] Many Protestant scholars agree.[43][44] The Second coming and the resurrection of the dead, however, have not yet occurred in the partial preterist system.[45]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism#Schools_of_preterist_thought

Can you stop playing games now and admit that you fit the definition of a partial preterist quite well? Or do you need a third definition to prove it to you?


75 posted on 05/16/2014 11:22:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
>>> Ok, from your preferred source, wikipedia, here is the same basic information included in their entry:

“Partial preterism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism#Schools_of_preterist_thought

Can you stop playing games now and admit that you fit the definition of a partial preterist quite well? Or do you need a third definition to prove it to you?
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Postmillennialism (from Wikipedia): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmillennialism

"In Christian end-times theology, (eschatology), postmillennialism is an interpretation of chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation which sees Christ's second coming as occurring after (Latin post-) the "Millennium", a Golden Age in which Christian ethics prosper. The term subsumes several similar views of the end times, and it stands in contrast to premillennialism and, to a lesser extent, amillennialism."

"Postmillennialism holds that Jesus Christ establishes his kingdom on earth through his preaching and redemptive work in the first century and that he equips his church with the gospel, empowers her by the Spirit, and charges her with the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19) to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith, righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the affairs of men and of nations."


I believe all of that, except I believe in an additional resurrection: a first resurrection that precedes the "millennium," exactly like it is written in Revelation. More on postmillennialism …

"After an extensive era of such conditions Jesus Christ will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously, to end history with the general resurrection and the final judgment after which the eternal order follows."


I believe he will return, and every knee will bow before him; but I believe the Church and this earth will last forever, as written:

"Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen." (Eph 3:21 KJV)

"One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever." (Ecc 1:4 KJV)

"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." (Rev 22:2 KJV)


So, with slight shades of difference, I am a Postmillennialist.

Now, will you stop playing childish games and debate the scriptures?

Philip

80 posted on 05/16/2014 2:48:09 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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