[D-fendr]

Why the avoidance in discussing your dogma? Why avoid subjecting it to the same examination?

That would be a dishonest debate or at the least a double standard.

[BlueDragon]

Why is there not understanding of the answers I have already given to your questions?

Why must I need to continue to repeat myself?

Now go back and find the questions where I asked to the effect; "who (and what) is this "church" which you speak of".

Define that, right now.

Or -- you may take your continual accusation of "double-standards" and go jump in the lake.

If you want "honest debate" then be so yourself with your own aims, your own wordings, and your own responses.

I'm pages ahead of you in this respect.