the absolute absence of even one prayer to anyone in Heaven but the Lord
Perhaps. Absence is not prohibition, is it?
And angels and elders simply offering up the prayers of saints as a memorial at the time of judgment is sppsd to support them actually hearing prayers addressed to them and sanctioning it
It is supposed to suggest that the saints pray, and the prayers are heard by God since St. John sees them delivered, and does not write "...but God ignored the prayers brought to him". Besides the "time of judgment in these chapters of the Apocalypse is also a description of any Mass.
Then they demand we take Jn. 6:53,54 literally
Yes, they do, because it is written the way it is. Read the scripture every once in a while without trying to deny half of what you read, and you will be Catholic again.
is getting personal, telling him he is "denying" half of what he reads, or trying to, which is just your own personal opinion of dan. More true in this particular instance is perhaps the opposite, in more ways than one (like reading on to verse 63)...but never mind all of that, for now.
Discuss the issues (here of late, or at this juncture that being --scripture and theology) and not the person of another here -- as much as possible. Thank you.
Please review for all of that helps explain why.
Perhaps
There is not perhaps. You cannot find a single prayer addressed to anyone in Heaven but the Lord, among the 200 or so in Scripture.
. Absence is not prohibition, is it?
Yikes. The Mormons would love you. Teaching for doctrines based on absence of prohibition (Kolob here they come).
The reality is that the autocratic authority you hold Rome has as regards civil laws also applies to all of Rome's assertions. She is her own law, with Scripture, history and tradition only meaning what she says they mean, or agree with her.
And angels and elders simply offering up the prayers of saints as a memorial at the time of judgment is sppsd to support them actually hearing prayers addressed to them and sanctioning it
It is supposed to suggest that the saints pray, and the prayers are heard by God
Then it infers only what may be speculated, not that they can hear all the prayers of those on earth and respond to them.
Besides the "time of judgment in these chapters of the Apocalypse is also a description of any Mass.
More contrivance. Repeating propaganda will never make it true for Rome or Communists.
Then they demand we take Jn. 6:53,54 literally
Yes, they do, because it is written the way it is. Read the scripture every once in a while without trying to deny half of what you read, and you will be Catholic again.
Rather, it is RCs who must deny Scripture contradicts Rome, and are not to objectively examine Scripture in order to ascertain the veracity of official teaching.
Meanwhile, resorting to sarcasm (again) in response to abundant proof from Scripture showing the contrary, as well as that this literalism results in contradicting modern Rome, also fails to make it true.