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To: boatbums
to imply Scripture says works save us

I did not "imply" anything of the sort. The Bible says that we are not saved by faith alone (James 2:24). The Protestants say that we are. I agree with the Bible and not with Protestantism. That is all there is to it: faith, indeed, leads men to salvation provided it brings forth good works.

The quote you make from Romans is incomplete without the reference to circumcision in verses 7-10, that is the works that were not necessary for the blessing of Abraham were works of Jewish law. Exactly as the Catholic Church teaches.

355 posted on 05/01/2014 5:41:52 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; metmom
I did not "imply" anything of the sort. The Bible says that we are not saved by faith alone (James 2:24). The Protestants say that we are. I agree with the Bible and not with Protestantism. That is all there is to it: faith, indeed, leads men to salvation provided it brings forth good works.

Except James 2:24 DOES NOT SAY "we are not saved by faith alone", so why do you keep repeating it? You want to criticize "Protestants" for not agreeing with all of the Bible yet you paraphrase ONE passage that still won't prove what you expect all the rest of the passages do! Read the context of who James is speaking to and what he is actually saying rather than the accursed perversion that nullifies the grace of God. He says, "You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone". It is before others that the faith we profess is justified by how we act - but NOT before God. HE sees the heart and knows if the profession of faith AND the deeds that accompany it are GENUINE - because we ALL know people who fake it. This IS the only way that verse works with all the rest of Scripture on the subject of salvation.

The quote you make from Romans is incomplete without the reference to circumcision in verses 7-10, that is the works that were not necessary for the blessing of Abraham were works of Jewish law. Exactly as the Catholic Church teaches.

Except Abraham was justified by faith HUNDREDS of years before there was a Law of Moses. I thought you knew this? And you still cannot explain the verse in Titus 3:5, He saved us-- not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to His mercy". Until the Catholic Church comes back to the pure Gospel of the grace of God that I really do think they once believed, they will continue to preach an accursed gospel and face the judgment of God.

358 posted on 05/01/2014 9:12:38 PM PDT by boatbums (quod semper, quod ubique, quod ab omnibus)
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