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To: Jvette
The comma doesn’t mean that his mother’s sister and Mary the wife of Clopas were different people. Rather the comma sets apart the identity of his mother’s sister.

It makes far more sense than having Mary's sister named Mary as well...

Mark 6:4 But Jesus, said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.

Kin can mean brothers, sisters, cousins, friends, countrymen...And he does not place those kin in his own house...

Brothers and sisters has an entirely different meaning...

Your reasoning doesn’t hold up when looking at other verses, just as I said. The two James are identified by their fathers, Zebedee and Cleopas(Alphaeus).

I don't see where Alphaeus and Cleophas are the same person...I don't see any mention of the sons of Cleophas...

But the point is; there are places where Marys are mentioned with the name of her children, minus a husbands name...Those children's names match some of the names of the children attributed to Mary the mother of Jesus...One inclues a female name...

And as I said, it wouldn't make sense to list all 8 children every time Mary's name was mentioned...It's not necessary...So not only could they be one person who is the mother of Jesus, I believe they are...

199 posted on 04/15/2014 8:35:07 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool
It makes far more sense than having Mary's sister named Mary as well...

That is because the Bible wasn't written in English, it was written in Greek and Hebrew both of which have names which translate to the English name, Mary.

Kin can mean brothers, sisters, cousins, friends, countrymen...And he does not place those kin in his own house...

Jesus is speaking of the house of David and not his earthly home.

I don't see where Alphaeus and Cleophas are the same person...I don't see any mention of the sons of Cleophas...

There are scholars who believe that they are the same man, I didn't invent that out of thin air. Also, Cleophas' wife is named as such and with her, their children.

.Those children's names match some of the names of the children attributed to Mary the mother of Jesus...One inclues a female name...

This is an example of wanting to see in Scripture what is not there. I have already shown where the children that you claim are attributed to Mary are the children of Mary of Clopas. There is no where that the Mother of Jesus is called or identified with other children.

There are at least six Marys in the NT, that is why after the annunciation and nativity narratives, Mary is always linked to Jesus as a means of distinguishing her.

205 posted on 04/16/2014 5:45:29 PM PDT by Jvette
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