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To: Just mythoughts
Luke as a medical doctor would know the difference in ‘first’ born and ‘only’ born.

at the time of Christ being first born, He would have also been only born......Luke had no knowledge of her future child bearing experiences....

183 posted on 04/15/2014 6:05:48 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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To: terycarl
at the time of Christ being first born, He would have also been only born......Luke had no knowledge of her future child bearing experiences....

He certainly knew it at the time he penned the gospel...

189 posted on 04/15/2014 7:47:02 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: terycarl
at the time of Christ being first born, He would have also been only born......Luke had no knowledge of her future child bearing experiences....

And here I thought God was in control of who and what HE intended to have penned in HIS WORD. Not a bunch of flesh beings calling themselves councils. Now here is the prophecy which Mary fulfilled. Isaiah 7 and I am going to type in the 'background' so it can be seen exactly what role Mary was to play. There is NO doubt that even in the days of Isaiah the LORD GOD knew who He would use to fulfill this prophecy. After all God created Mary's soul/spirit intellect and He knew He could depend upon her to fulfill HIS prophecy.

1 And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz the son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin the king of Syria, and Pekah the son of Remalian, king of Israel, went up toward Jerusalem to war against it but could not prevail against it.

2 And it was told the house of David, saying, "Syria is confederate with Ephraim." And his heart was moved, and the heart of his people, as the trees of the wood are moved with the wind.

3 Then said the LORD unto Isaiah, "Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shear-jashub thy son, at the end of the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field;

4 And say unto him, 'Take heed,nd be quiet; fear not, neither be fainthearted for the two tails of these smoking firebrands, for the fierce anger of Rezin with Syria and of the son of Remaliah.

5 Because Syria, Ephraim, and the son of Remaliah, have taken evil counsel against thee, saying,

6 'Let us go up against Judah, and vex it, and let us make a breach therein for us, and set a king in the midst of it, even the son of Tabeal:'

7 Thus saith the LORD GOD, 'It shall not stand, neither shall it come to pass.

8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascuss is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, *that it be not a people*.

(Ephraim represented those 'lost sheep' of the House of Israel, (also called the Northern Kingdom Samaria) Christ told His elected disciples in Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.)

Follow the footsteps of Christianity and you will find those 'lost sheep', because it is also the fulfillment to the promise to Abraham. Christianity did not begin or end on the door steps to Rome.

Back to Isaiah 7:10 Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying,

11 "Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above."

12 But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD."

13 And he said, "Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?

14 Therefore the LORD Himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

You can read the rest of Isaiah 7 as the prophecy does not end in verse 14.

Now some of the naysayers will claim the word 'virgin' is actually 'damsel' as if it would be lawful for a 'damsel' to be sleeping around. Why? Because they have another god and are unbelievers.

Now in Matthew 2:17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, (Jeremiah 31:15)

18 "In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not."

Not what? A people! Ephraim was Rachel's grandson, twin brother to Manassah, children of Joseph sold into slavery by his brothers to Egypt. Rachel's other child was Benjamin, in which Rachel died in childbirth.

Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin and offspring of Rachel.

I give this background because as it is Written God is not a respecter of persons. And He did not set Mary up to be a deity, or as some claim a PERPETUAL virgin to God. God did not say it a bunch of men, maybe even women were involved in the making up of unsound doctrine.

Once Mary gave birth to the ONLY Begotten Son of God, her first born, her prophecy was fulfilled and she was under no obligation to remain 'sex' free. Mary's sex life has no affect/effect upon the salvation of any willing soul.

It is striking, now that the subject of this post is a demonic attack upon our Lord and Savior. I cannot ignore how Mary is the one getting the 'protection' of supposed Christians while the many apparently find it acceptable to launch unbelief upon and all around our Lord and Savior.

I again, am reminded of that church doctrine given to John to record, when John was taken in spirit to the Lord's day. Revelation 2, the church of Ephesus ..... verse 4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou has left thy first love.

200 posted on 04/16/2014 3:43:30 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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