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To: Iscool

If I am wrong, prove it. Post the Scripture that calls anyone other than Jesus the child of Mary. Two of the “brothers” mentioned in Matthew 13, James and Joses or Joseph, are elsewhere named as the sons of Mary, the wife of Cleopas who is Mary’s sister or sister in law or possible even a cousin. That would indicate then that the other two mentioned in Matthew 13, Simon and Jude, are also the sons of Mary of Cleopas.

In the story of Easter morning, when the women go to the tomb to anoint Jesus, Mary is called the mother of James. This obviously could not be Jesus’ mother who is always identified with her Son. Further proof that the James mentioned in Matthew is not Mary’s son.

Therefore, in Matthew, the most direct mention of Jesus’ “siblings”, those mentioned are not Mary’s children, but those of the other Mary. The same could then be said about the sisters mentioned there.

In light of this cross reference, it is completely logical to see that Scripture does call people who were not Jesus’ actual siblings, his brothers.

It is easy to take one or two verses and try to make the case that Joseph and Mary had children, but as I said, Scripture does not clearly identify any others as Mary’s children.

The fact that there are so many similar or same names for different people throughout the NT is confusing. That is why cross referencing varying verses is important. Even with that there are disagreements about some of those named in the NT and their relationships to each other.

Anyone to unequivocally declares that Scripture says that Jesus had brothers and sisters who were children of Mary and Joseph is reading into Scripture what they want to see and not what is actually written.


178 posted on 04/15/2014 3:17:07 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette
If I am wrong, prove it. Post the Scripture that calls anyone other than Jesus the child of Mary.

So what...The bible doesn't say the bible is the bible but we know it's the bible...The bible doesn't say Trinity but we know it's in there...Besides, we know Psalm 69 is a Psalm about Jesus...And Jesus again, says this:

Psa 69:8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children.

Mary's children, not Joseph's...

Two of the “brothers” mentioned in Matthew 13, James and Joses or Joseph, are elsewhere named as the sons of Mary, the wife of Cleopas who is Mary’s sister or sister in law or possible even a cousin.

No, there are no children named as the sons of Mary, wife of Cleophas...

And Mary is not Mary's sister...There's a comma in there...Mary's sister is not named...

In the story of Easter morning, when the women go to the tomb to anoint Jesus, Mary is called the mother of James. This obviously could not be Jesus’ mother who is always identified with her Son. Further proof that the James mentioned in Matthew is not Mary’s son.

All it is is logic, and poor logic it is...

Mat_27:56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children.

Mar_15:47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid.

Mar_15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;

Mar_16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

These other Marys are all the same person, the mother of Jesus...There was no need to write the names of Mary's 8 other children every time Mary was mentioned...Besides, God expects people to do a bit of study to get to the meat of things...

181 posted on 04/15/2014 5:04:40 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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