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To: Just mythoughts
Honestly it makes NO Godly sense for a denomination so obsessed with contraception, they could with a straight face require Mary to use contraception.

The problem is that you reject history. There is more to the story than what was recorded in Scripture (John 21:25 and others).

Mary was pledged to virginity for God. Why do you think there was a concern when she was found with child? Surely Joseph, being a righteous man, should have done the right thing and condemned her. He didn't, not just because he liked her but because there was a larger significance. He was chosen for her because of her vow.

Mary was given to the Temple at the age of three by her parents to serve God. You see, her father, Joachim was barred from giving his offerings to the Temple because he and his wife, Anna, were childless. Clearly, they were cursed. He went away ashamed and prayed in the desert and fasted for 40 days and nights. Anna prayed in a garden and was approached by an Angel who told her she would bear a child. Anna promised this child (Mary) to God to serve Him all the days of her life.

When Mary was 14 years old (the age at which is was customary for maidens to marry), there was a problem. She was known for being undefiled and had vowed to remain so. Zaccharia was told in a dream what to do. Bring the available men to the Temple and have them bring their staffs in hand. The Lord would make the staff of the right man bloom. No staff bloomed. Zaccharia was initially perturbed but learned that Joseph, a much older widower with grown children, had not been present. He was brought into the assembly and his staff bloomed.

Mary was not given to a man who was young and burning with lust. She was entrusted to a protector to be a foster-father to the Son of God. There was no contraception involved. Mary is not a deity. She was a vessel chosen by God to do His Will for the redemption of man.

104 posted on 04/14/2014 1:45:13 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
The problem is that you reject history. There is more to the story than what was recorded in Scripture (John 21:25 and others).

Quite the contrary I love His-Story, beginning in Genesis 1:1, and as Paul tells us, ICorinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened (got to go to ICorinthians 10:1 to find out all these things) unto them for ensamples (examples): and they are written for our admonition, (warning) upon whom the ends of the world are come. We are given the 'more to the story' by the Creator and of course Christ. Mark 13:23 before man's traditions got made up Christ said "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." Then Christ quotes Isaiah 13:10 making Isaiah one and the same as the Gospel.

Mary was pledged to virginity for God. Why do you think there was a concern when she was found with child? Surely Joseph, being a righteous man, should have done the right thing and condemned her. He didn't, not just because he liked her but because there was a larger significance. He was chosen for her because of her vow.

Fornication was against the law and not just for Mary. Where is it written that Mary pledge to virginity for God? Where are these specific words used that Mary pledged a vow? Mary was following the law not some action called a vow. Joseph and Mary were betrothed before Mary conceived. Meaning they had not yet 'married' in the Biblical sense. But it is pure junk to claim they never had sex or children of their own, I don't care how old Joseph was.

Mary was given to the Temple at the age of three by her parents to serve God. You see, her father, Joachim was barred from giving his offerings to the Temple because he and his wife, Anna, were childless. Clearly, they were cursed. He went away ashamed and prayed in the desert and fasted for 40 days and nights. Anna prayed in a garden and was approached by an Angel who told her she would bear a child. Anna promised this child (Mary) to God to serve Him all the days of her life.

Please cite this story. It sounds made up by traditions of men.

When Mary was 14 years old (the age at which is was customary for maidens to marry), there was a problem. She was known for being undefiled and had vowed to remain so. Zaccharia was told in a dream what to do. Bring the available men to the Temple and have them bring their staffs in hand. The Lord would make the staff of the right man bloom. No staff bloomed. Zaccharia was initially perturbed but learned that Joseph, a much older widower with grown children, had not been present. He was brought into the assembly and his staff bloomed. Mary was not given to a man who was young and burning with lust. She was entrusted to a protector to be a foster-father to the Son of God. There was no contraception involved. Mary is not a deity. She was a vessel chosen by God to do His Will for the redemption of man.

Who wrote this stuff.

I am reminded of the doctrines of the church in Ephesus Revelation 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. I hear more love for Mary than for the LORD and Saviour Jesus the Christ. Or Emmanuel meaning God with us.

115 posted on 04/14/2014 2:16:41 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: pgyanke

What is the origin of that story or is it just passed down by word of mouth???


121 posted on 04/14/2014 3:28:37 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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