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To: NYer

Just for fun. Pretend for a minute we find real proof he was married. ( like he would have been expected to be, in that place and time and especially Given his role). Just pretend. Now, what difference would that make? Just asking. I can’t see any big negative. And it would help reinforce the institution of marriage today. But maybe I’m overlooking something? Thanks.


14 posted on 04/10/2014 8:35:29 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: faithhopecharity
Just for fun. Pretend for a minute we find real proof he was married. ( like he would have been expected to be, in that place and time and especially Given his role). Just pretend. Now, what difference would that make? Just asking. I can’t see any big negative.

Big difference, Dude. As the only sinless man to have ever walked the earth, Jesus was not subject to the lusts and temptations of mankind. He came to be a living witness to God, to fulfill the law, and to die for all sins.

Were he to have married and had children then this would have been the life of an ordinary man, not God in flesh. And our faith would be a lie.

Incidentally, you might recall that the "Jesus married" notion is exactly the hidden secret revealed at the end of Dan Brown's bestseller, "The DaVinci Code."

25 posted on 04/10/2014 8:51:34 PM PDT by tom h
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To: faithhopecharity
Pretend for a minute we find real proof he was married. ( like he would have been expected to be, in that place and time and especially Given his role). Just pretend. Now, what difference would that make?

None whatsoever.

35 posted on 04/10/2014 9:21:16 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Well I see you got a few answers-Ha:)To pretend that Our lord was married.Hummmm.You might be thinking in human terms.


41 posted on 04/10/2014 9:32:16 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: faithhopecharity; tom h; TBP; fatima
Now, what difference would that make? Just asking. I can’t see any big negative. And it would help reinforce the institution of marriage today. But maybe I’m overlooking something? Thanks.

Marriage is what John Paul II used to call the "primordial sacrament", in that it was inscribed in human nature from the very moment the Persons of the Trinity said the words "Let Us make man in Our image", "male and female He created them", and "the two shall become one body". But this creation story makes it perfectly clear that marriage is a created institution that is the unique privilege of created men and women, i.e., created human persons, and not at all that of uncreated Persons.

By definition, only created persons can be "made in the image of God". But Jesus, as the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, is an uncreated Person as are the other Two Divine Persons of the Trinity. He is a Divine uncreated Person who became Incarnate. He assumed our humanity. Only created persons, and not uncreated Persons, can be said to be "made in Our image" as opposed to being "the same as Us".

The created man and woman find only in other created persons of opposite gender the possibility of making a complete, equal, and complementary self-gift of all that they are in their beings - their flesh, their souls, their PERSONS, and to do so requires by definition their equal and complementary dignity as created men and women.  That is because men and women by creation are co-naturally fit for each other, precisely for the marriage relationship.

For a Divine Person to establish a 'marriage" with a created person is ludicrous on its face -- as it would now mean the most unequal and unfit of all bonds, that of God Himself marrying a human being. It would not only be a kind of desecration of the Trinity, by virtue of making the sacred into the merely profane, but even a desecration of natural marriage, since as a farcical counterfeit it defaces the conjugal union, as with all false facsimiles of the true and beautiful.

Moreover, even the idea itself of human-Divine marriage reduces God to something other than God. Jesus is not a created human person, which would necessarily be required for Him to be able to make a complete self-gift of His Person with a woman. Giving him an earthly wife would theologically and necessarily reduce Him to only a human person, which hearkens back to the Christological heresies of old, interestingly enough those which precisely raged during this same period of time.  

Consider something else. Even though we know Jesus could not carnally marry a woman, suppose for a moment that He could. Would His death have dissolved the union? What then of His Resurrection? Would His wife then have been free to re-marry immediately after His death on the cross? Whose wife would she then be on Easter Sunday?

It seems both sacrilegious and even blasphemous to seriously consider the possibility of Jesus having conjugal relations with a woman. For Jesus, His very Flesh would have had to be considered virginal from the moment of His conception, since in no way could His embodied sexuality ever be actualized in carnal relations with a woman and still remain a true expression of His Personal Self-gift.

53 posted on 04/11/2014 4:03:25 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: faithhopecharity

“...what difference...”

It would matter because of the hypostatic union and Jesus’ nature as true God and true man. If He were to have children, they would be partly divine in a watered down sense as Jesus’ human nature (from his Mother) and His Divine Nature (from the Holy Spirit) are not separated out. The idea that His children would be part God is just not acceptable and, as a Person of the Trinity, He was well aware of this and Our Lord remained celibate.


57 posted on 04/11/2014 4:53:06 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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--- What difference would it make? ===

The Church is Jesus' bride. The idea of God as the bridegroom of Israel goes back to the Old Testament.

Providentially, Catholic Answers broadcast a program called "Jesus the Bridegroom" in early April.

97 posted on 04/13/2014 5:41:57 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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