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To: metmom; LurkingSince'98; daniel1212; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww
I have just made a $250 donation and I will make another $750 donation if anyone can disprove my claim that there is more Scripture in a Catholic Mass than in a protestant service on any Sunday.

FWIW, I love the idea of making this a donation contest. LurkingSince'98, can we get some clarification re your claim, if possible? You indicated Sunday vs Sunday, I believe, so daily mass is out of the contest. Are you saying that more Scripture is read during the mass, or are you saying more Scripture is quoted during the mass? And are you looking for some kind of average of all protestant Sunday worship services, or any congregation, any service, any Sunday? Are we limited to the year it took place? We need to know specifics, so that we can compare apples to apples.

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Calvin's preaching was of one kind from beginning to end: he preached steadily through book after book of the Bible. He never wavered from this approach to preaching for almost twenty-five years of ministry in St. Peter's church of Geneva - with the exception of a few high festivals and special occasions. "On Sunday he took always the New Testament, except for a few Psalms on Sunday afternoons. During the week . . . it was always the Old Testament". The records show fewer than half a dozen exceptions for the sake of the Christian year. He almost entirely ignored Christmas and Easter in the selection of his text. To give you some idea of the scope of the Calvin's pulpit, he began his series on the book of Acts on August 25, 1549, and ended it in March of 1554. After Acts he went on to the epistles to the Thessalonians (46 sermons), Corinthians (186 sermons), pastorals (86 sermons), Galatians (43 sermons), Ephesians (48 sermons) - till May 1558. Then there is a gap when he is ill. In the spring of 1559 he began the Harmony of the Gospels and was not finished when he died in May, 1564. During the week of that season he preached 159 sermons on Job, 200 on Deuteronomy, 353 on Isaiah, 123 on Genesis and so on.

One of the clearest illustrations that this was a self-conscious choice on Calvin's part was the fact that on Easter Day, 1538, after preaching, he left the pulpit of St. Peter's, banished by the City Council. He returned in September, 1541 - over three years later - and picked up the exposition in the next verse.
-- excerpted from John Piper's The Divine Majesty Of The Word


680 posted on 04/09/2014 5:58:48 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

If we’re not limited to year, I’ll reach back to 1781 and John Wesley’s Sermon 60, “The General Deliverance.”

http://new.gbgm-umc.org/umhistory/wesley/sermons/60/


687 posted on 04/09/2014 6:09:23 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Alex Murphy

AM

time is short and I have to run soooon, but

Scripture spoken and/or read aloud by the priest/minister deacon or congregation.

Sunday versus Sunday because they all said Sunday to make it comparable.

This year, I will let you pick the Sunday we can compare apples to apples.

PS I’ve heard of some congregations, not sure who or what denomination, that go on for eight hours.

Lets keep it to the typical Sunday service vs the typical Sunday mass.

more later?

AMDG


717 posted on 04/09/2014 7:11:13 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: Alex Murphy
We could engage in testimony number wars:

From Catholic Answers: http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=578988My 13 year old son's friend (a baptist and Great kid) attends a church with incredible youth involvement and activities designed to keep the young people "ALIVE WITH THE FAITH" and IT WORKS!!!! Tons of pressure on my son because our parish is "flatlined" when it comes to youth. As a side note to this, I allowed him to attend one evening program at his friends church and when he came home, he was excited about what he read in the bible and what it meant in his life (he NEVER once had to bring a bible with him to religious ed. nor did they ever read from scripture)

We have 3 Excellent Bible Studies , by Converts from Protestant bible Churches who have 3 types

728 posted on 04/09/2014 10:28:57 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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