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Posted on 04/05/2014 5:57:23 AM PDT by Gamecock
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Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Bishop of Rome
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2482796/posts
“Peter’s presence in Rome in indicated in his first letter. The name “Babylon” is used here as a cryptic name for the city of Rome, a characteristic of writings done during times of persecution. During Peter’s time (witnessed by his own martyrdom) and most New Testament times (witness the Book of Revelation—classic persecution literature), Rome took on the characteristics of the most outstanding example of a world power hostile to God—ancient Babylon. “
Who is mocking Mary?
And why would Jesus be any more displeased about someone mocking Mary than any other human that is created in the image of God.
You know...... If you do it to the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me.
I pinged you as one who tends to get into research and such issues, and this one basically goes back around here , and is one which SR just posted more on again.
Be assured i did not do the counting, but used the E-Sword.net King James Concordance module, but which often leaves out the primary rendering.
I hope to finish it when i can net week maybe. Bless God.
Thanks for the encouragement/.
The art of language.
“The name “Babylon” is used here as a cryptic name for the city of Rome”
cryptic mean code - so you do need your protestant SSDR Secret Scripture Decoder Ring to get it right.
AMDG
And of course I strongly agree with boatbums that parsing out the phrases which are rooted in Scripture is indeed a tremendous amount of work. I'm so glad you took on the project for that side of the challenge. It was quite informative. Again, thank you!
The challenge would have been straight forward if only actual Scripture quotes (cited passages) were to be counted.
I cannot imagine the amount of work it would entail to find all the Scriptural sources backing up this well known sermon and the song I linked earlier. LOLOL!
thanks daniel...
a fair assessment on your part.
I appreciate that fact that you quote actual passages for your posts.
AMDG
gotta go again Have a Blessed Palm Sunday.
You rang? :-)
That is if "try in their actions to do his [Jesus'] will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience". Like I said, have someone read it to you, or try reading yourself one more time. There is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church.
Since the Church is the ONLY way to know Jesus and be saved, the Church often sounds “arrogant”. In fact, she even should.
The knowledge of human dignity and virtue originates exclusively in the Church because Jesus taught the Church first, but of course some of it was adopted by various religious communities outside of it, such as Protestants, Mormons, modern Jews, and the Lodge.
Wrong. It is "yes, rather". In both these episodes Christ points out that other disciples may also become saints and be venerated alongside Mary. The Church teaches, naturally, the same.
No, as a direct quote, that is incorrect. Where are you quoting from? The Catechism, that Cynical Bear just brought to our attention explains the Catholic belief (I paraphrase): if a Protestant (for example) desires to obey in his works the Gospel of Jesus Christ even though his knowledge of Jesus Christ is distorted by Protestantism (or atheism, or Islam, etc. -- and I am not equating the three), then he may be saved through his good works. What would prevent a Protestant from reaching salvation is then an active defiance of the Catholic Church.
Often what people mean to say is that one educated about Catholic faith yet clinging to Protestant heresies is in grave danger of perdition. But only God knows your soul, and only God can save you. We don't.
It is by (not through) Jesus our Savior, Whom you know from the Catholic Church, or not know if you deny the truths of the Catholic Church.
True. "Whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting". But that belief, in order to be authentic belief of the first Christians who knew Jesus in the flesh, must be the belief of the One Holy Catholic Church, the only one He founded and purchased with His blood, the pillar and ground of all truth.
For example, do you also believe that the Holy Eucharist is the window on the actual sacrifice of Christ at the Golgotha hill? And that the bread and wine of the Eucharist is the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ? Yet He also said that:
I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. (John 6)
The Catholic Church believes this as written. You, too, if you want to believe Jesus Christ in full, need to read the Bible in full and believe all the Christ said, not only John 3:16, and then you will be Catholic (or Orthodox, who are essentially also Catholic).
arrogant people
It is not possible to proclaim an absolute truth and not sound "arrogant" to someone who has some private "truths". That is regrettable, but that is how it is.
When and if a Muslim is saved, he is saved through Jesus Christ only, so don't worry about others.We'll be all Catholic in Heaven.
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