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To: dsc; daniel1212
God is not stingy. It seems to me that it must sadden Him that Protestants make such a big deal of rejecting all those gifts.

Oh, my! I do believe you are resorting to anti-Protestant bigotry all by yourself. Another one for your records, Daniel1212.

406 posted on 04/01/2014 8:00:33 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: boatbums
Oh, my! I do believe you are resorting to anti-Protestant bigotry all by yourself. Another one for your records, Daniel1212.

Well, unlike the rants about Prots being mostly completely biblically illiterate, having faith in no Christ at all, that statements is based on the premise that what is not written is Rome's nebulous source of unwritten oral tradition, thus God is not stingy. Which the Mormons would agree with, as besides their "scriptures" they have their tradition, which includes their version of a heavenly mother goddess.

You know all the following, but for the record, the premise is that an assuredly infallible magisterium is required to establish which books are inspired of God, and which magisterium Rome is, and thus as some of these writings existed first in oral form then she can find more wheat out of the same ground. And thereby essentially add to Scripture.

However, her foundational premise is fallacious, as an assuredly infallible magisterium is not required nor the basis for the establishment of which books are inspired of God and assurance of truth.

Both men and writings of God were established as being so essentially due to their heavenly qualities and attestation, and before there was a church even in Rome, and the church itself began in dissent from those who were the official magisterium, establishing her Truth claims upon Scriptural substantiation in word and in power. (Mt. 22:23-45; Lk. 24:27,44; Jn. 5:36,39; Acts 2:14-35; 4:33; 5:12; 15:6-21;17:2,11; 18:28; 28:23; Rm. 15:19; 2Cor. 12:12, etc.)

And the establishment of these writings of God distinguishes between wholly inspired writings and oral tradition that some came from, and that which were not. To hold the two as equal is to keep the wheat with the tares since they both came out of the same ground.

And as is abundantly evidenced that Scripture is the assured Word of God and transcendent standard for obedience and testing and establishing truth claims, then even if something oral is of God to any degree, it is subject to Scripture as being the supreme standard, as is the church which began under Scripture. As it followed an itinerant Preacher who upon Scriptural substantiation in word and in power.

Rome has gone even beyond the Scribes and Pharisees in infallibly declaring she is and will be perpetually infallible whenever she speaks in accordance with her infallibly defined (scope and subject-based) formula, which renders her declaration that she is infallible, to be infallible, as well as all else she accordingly declares.

423 posted on 04/02/2014 5:25:52 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: boatbums

“Oh, my! I do believe you are resorting to anti-Protestant bigotry all by yourself. Another one for your records, Daniel1212.”

You consider *that* to be anti-protestant bigotry?

Thanks for divesting yourself of all credibility among right-thinking people.


440 posted on 04/02/2014 8:59:09 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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