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To: Tzfat

>>>You have some big surprises coming. Jerusalem, the one that is on the map today, is the same one that you think, I was destroyed. Maybe not special to you, but it is special to the only One that matters. Ps 122:6-9<<<

That prayer was for old Jerusalem, which Christ sent his armies to destroy in 70 AD. The new covenant fulfilled the promise to David: that the fruit of his loin (Christ) would sit on his throne forever. Acts 2:22-36

Philip


58 posted on 03/22/2014 8:26:08 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau; editor-surveyor; CynicalBear

Which armies did Christ send to destroy Jerusalem in 70AD? Well the indisputable fact is Roman legions did that I agree. However the prophetic text you base that on is Revelation 19 which is error in that the hosts in Revelation led by Christ at the second coming destroy the armies of the beast and kings of the nations.

The Roman armies were never crushed and left for bird food and neither was the “beast” Nero who died two years before the sack of Jerusalem. So Christ “leading His armies” to destroy Jerusalem and that army being the 70AD Romans does not fit Revelation 19 at all. The Romans were victorious and the beast is defeated in Revelation 19. No matter of allegory or spiritualizing can fix this error. One cannot be both.


68 posted on 03/22/2014 11:49:16 PM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Tzfat
You wrote: >>>You have some big surprises coming. Jerusalem, the one that is on the map today, is the same one that you think, I was destroyed. Maybe not special to you, but it is special to the only One that matters. Ps 122:6-9<<<

I replied: That prayer was for old Jerusalem, which Christ sent his armies to destroy in 70 AD. The new covenant fulfilled the promise to David: that the fruit of his loin (Christ) would sit on his throne forever. Acts 2:22-36<<<

After studying Ps 122, I am beginning to believe that I may have misunderstood that passage. This is a part you didn't reference:

"Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together: Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the Lord, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the Lord. For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee." (Ps 122:3-6 KJV)

Now I am beginning to believe that David is talking about New Jerusalem, the heavenly city on mount Sion. Jesus had promised his disciples that they would judge from twelve thrones:

"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." (Mat 19:28 KJV)

Thrones and judgement are also mentioned at the first resurrection:

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." (Rev 20:4 KJV)

I have no references that indicate there were so-called "thrones of judgement" in the days of David. Therefore, I believe he was talking about the thrones in New Jerusalem.

Philip

69 posted on 03/23/2014 12:22:59 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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