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To: PhilipFreneau
>>And Jesus, the judge, said, over and over again, we would be judged according to our works. I believe him.<<

And then He answered as to what those works are.

“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” John 6:28-29

You do believe what Jesus said don’t you?

>>Well, that is part of what I believe. I don't believe anyone should exalt themselves with flattering titles. Nor would I even consider exalting myself to be like those early Christians who receive the POWER of the Holy Ghost and did many wonderful and miraculous things. Those were THE saints, and not any new Christian since the days of Jude.<<

How sad. You claim to be a Christian yet deny being “set apart” by God.

The rest of your post simply indicates that according to your belief most all of scripture is immaterial to you and has no affect or implication for your life. How utterly sad.

258 posted on 03/27/2014 3:55:02 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
>>>“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” John 6:28-29<<<

What does that verse mean, "Saint" Cynical? You post it over and over again; but you never explain what you think it means?


>>>How sad. You claim to be a Christian yet deny being “set apart” by God.<<<

Oh, no, "Saint" Cynical, you have greatly misunderstood my words. What Christ has given me is far more than I will ever deserve. I wasn't beheaded, or stoned, and I did not forsake all and follow the Lamb where ever He went or sent me. Why he even considered me is a mystery I will not understand until I meet him.

Maybe these verses from Jesus will help you understand where I am coming from:

"Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he." (Mat 11:11 KJV)

"For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he." (Luke 7:28 KJV)

I don't know what you have done in your life to render you worthy of sainthood; but I certainly don't consider myself anywhere near as worthy as John the Baptist. I am not only not in his ballpark, I am not even in his league. Therefore, what kind of Christian today would think they are better, or even equal to John the Baptist? And yet, John is considered to be less than the least in the kingdom of heaven/God.

That can only mean one thing: John is not part of the ruling class of the kingdom. That was reserved for the Saints: those who received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, or early-on as some of the first members of the Church. They were part of the first resurrection, and they currently reign as kings and priests with Christ in heaven, as indicated in Rev 20.

Anyway, it seems like Jesus did set John apart; but not according to your logic (or illogic.) Was that a good thing, or a bad thing? Shouldn't John be, at least, your equal in the kingdom of heaven/God? Do you consider yourself as greater than, or even equal to John the Baptist, "Saint" Cynical?

How about the disciples? Do you consider yourself their equals? Do you believe Jesus will set you up as a judge with a throne, as he has the disciples?

"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." (Mat 19:28 KJV)


>>>The rest of your post simply indicates that according to your belief most all of scripture is immaterial to you and has no affect or implication for your life. How utterly sad.<<<

Are you referring to that post, or the bulk of most of my posts that you avoid like the plague?

Frankly, "Saint" Cynical, I generally have a difficult time following you. It seems your understanding of what I write is as scatter-brained as your understanding of the scriptures. And you consider yourself a "Saint?" How cynical …

Philip

259 posted on 03/27/2014 7:42:55 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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