Because He said we would be judged according to our works? (as in, "Because you told me to, Drill Sergeant?") Well, in one case, he said every man would be rewarded according to his works; and in another he said his reward would be to give every man according as his work shall be.
>>>The only way a person can make the statement “We will all get judged for our individual works” is if he thinks it’s him who is doing them rather than giving Jesus credit.<<<
That is only in the mind of the dispensationalist; well, there may be others.
>>>Yes, I am. Paul called all believers saints.<<<
Well, I'll be? Saint Cynical! Has a nice ring to it.
I am a believer, but I am not a saint. And I don't recall seeing anywhere in the scriptures that all believers are saints.
Of course I don't know everything, like, say, a saint. Could you point out the verse(s) for me that shows all believers are saints?
>>>The word “saint” comes from the Greek word hagios, which means “consecrated to God, holy, sacred, pious." It is almost always used in the plural, “saints.”<<<
So, you are holy, sacred and pious, as well? Is it alright if I shorten that to Holy Saint Cynical? I am not implying you are not sacred and pious; but it is a rather long title. Do you saints call each other "saint" at Church, like the early Christians did when they weren't dodging stones?
>>>Put away those Preterist glasses and scripture will become more clear to you.<<<
Okay, I put them away (I had to borrow a pair, first, so bear with me.) Where in the scripture does it say all believers are saints? It certainly does not say that all believers are saints in any of the verses you quoted.
By the way, what does this verse mean?
"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." (Jude 1:3 KJV)
It certainly seems that the faith of the saints was a thing of the past when Jude wrote the epistle. If that is true, then how could any Christian from the days of Jude's epistle, forward, be a saint?
Philip
“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” John 6:28-29
>>I am a believer, but I am not a saint.<<
Sorry to hear that. A “believer” you say? So what does that mean? You believe what?
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Tell me the difference between what the devils believe and what you believe.
>>And I don't recall seeing anywhere in the scriptures that all believers are saints.<<
Well that doesn’t surprise me. From what I have seen you miss much of what scripture says. Here are a couple more.
Romans 1:7 to all who are in Rome, beloved of God, called saints; Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ!
1 Corinthians 1:2 to the assembly of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints, with all those calling upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place -- both theirs and ours:
2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ, through the will of God, and Timotheus the brother, to the assembly of God that is in Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia:
>>Okay, I put them away (I had to borrow a pair, first, so bear with me.)<<
You are by definition a Preterist. Not sure why you keep denying it.
Preterism is a Christian eschatological view that interprets prophecies of the Bible as events which have already happened. Daniel is interpreted as events that happened in the second century BC while Revelation is interpreted as events that happened in the first century AD. Preterism holds that Ancient Israel finds its continuation or fulfillment in the Christian church at the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, which is listed in Webster's 1913 dictionary as a prefix denoting that something is "past" or "beyond," signifying that either all or a majority of Bible prophecy was fulfilled by AD 70. Adherents of preterism are commonly known as preterists. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism]
>> By the way, what does this verse mean?<<
You don’t believe that the message was “once for all” delivered? How many times do you think it has to be delivered? The Greek doesn’t read “faith which was once delivered” as in at one time. It reads “Once for all having been delivered to the saints”. It was delivered “once for all” as in Christ died “once for all”.
1 Peter 3:18 because also Christ once for sin did suffer -- righteous for unrighteous -- that he might lead us to God, having been put to death indeed, in the flesh, and having been made alive in the spirit,
Hebrews 9:28 so also the Christ, once having been offered to bear the sins of many, a second time, apart from a sin-offering, shall appear, to those waiting for him -- to salvation!
>> It certainly seems that the faith of the saints was a thing of the past when Jude wrote the epistle.<<
For you it may be a “thing of the past”. For true followers of Christ it “once for all” delivered. All would include “all” regardless of time. Here directly from the Greek.
Jude 1:3 …“once for all having been delivered to the saints faith”…