Cynical: >>>So the Jews worshiped Nero and that’s why they bore the wrath of God? No kidding? Wow, I wonder how historians and the apostles missed that one?<<<
This is an example of classis dispensational debating techniques, folks. Avoid the question by claiming your challenger said something he didn't.
You ready for this? This was my actual question:
"Where can I find anything that Jesus blamed on the Romans, except for the forty and two month rampage of Nero, the Beast, in the Revelation?"
He pretended that my question was the statement on the top line; and then pretended to respond to a question I didn't ask or to any statement I have made. Such deceitfulness is always found in the toolbox of cults.
But since he brought it up, now is a good time to point out a very good book on the identity of the beast in the Revelation. It is titled "The Beast of Revelation," by Dr. Ken Gentry. Dr. Gentry is a Reformed Presbyterian Minister and Educator who has authored many great books on the Revelation and other topics, including his doctoral dissertation, "Before Jerusalem Fell," which is a classic.
Everyone, if you want to know how we ended up in this stalemate; this is the result of a classic, dispensational debating trick: when seriously challenged, redirect the debate to meaningless, philosophical hair-splitting. Start reading at post #154 to see what is being avoided.
Philip
That’s one of the problems with your Philip theology and the Preterist view. You don’t know what you are really saying. You said that Nero was the beast of Revelation. Well, the beast of Revelation was worshiped which is what I said.
Revelation 13: 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Now you accuse me of deflecting? By saying that Nero was the beast of Revelation you most certainly said that they worshiped him because that is what scripture says they did to the beast.
>> Dr. Gentry is a Reformed Presbyterian Minister and Educator who has authored many great books on the Revelation and other topics, including his doctoral dissertation, "Before Jerusalem Fell," which is a classic.<<
ROFLOL! Gentry is a self admitted Preterist. Yet you deny you are one but still rely on his interpretation of Revelation! Early on you claimed you relied on no one. Around here we have been through that Preterist nonsense before and they never last long.