Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Dutchboy88
Thats quite a picture you paint of me.

Having no idea who I am or what I believe it has nothing to do with reality, but it does make a good retort.

20 posted on 03/20/2014 8:28:38 AM PDT by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]


To: skeeter; ShadowAce
"Having no idea who I am or what I believe it has nothing to do with reality, but it does make a good retort."

I have some idea of the folks who deny the words of the Scripture in favor of their own fabrication of "free will" and self-determination. My response was not a "retort", but an encouragement to go read the Book and notice, predestination is simply the word used to describe the very real feature of God's universe wherein He has written a story and is playing it out in exacting detail. Those details include your destiny, my destiny, and every single individual created by Him. This goes for Esau (whom He decided to hate, before he was born) and Pharaoh (whom He decided to harden, before Moses even went to him, incidentally). So, yes, there are "vessels created for destruction" (Rom. 9).

The cavalier response you and ShadowAce made ignore His enormous control of every molecule, every moment. And, while this may be motivated by a sincere interest in "fairness", that concept is not biblical. God is not unjust, but His activities can be viewed by broken, sinful humans (that is all of us) as not "fair" unless He gives us the "choice" to trust Jesus or not. But, this is not the message of the Scriptures.

Notice, even Paul found that only those "appointed to eternal life believed." This is the effect of predestination. You may call to anyone and everyone. Many may respond (as in a "revival" meeting or a "crusade"), but only those whom Jesus "knows" (notice, not those who know Jesus) are going to be raised up on that day (John 6). Just trying to get the truth out there...but if it does not sink in, even that is managed by God.

31 posted on 03/20/2014 9:18:54 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson